have appointed shirley hostettler.he was placed on the court of appeals by president johnson in 1968. she was a great judge. he made her secretary of -- ation if he had a vacancy, there is no doubt he would have appointed shirley hostettler. charlie rose: so you moved to d.c. it is a job -- get a job as a professor at georgetown. he was a pretty good tax lawyer. justice ginsburg: in my not , he wasunbiased opinion the best tax lawyer in america. charlie rose: other people have said that. i love his ends of humor. he described himself as having a professional life devoted to protecting the rich from the predations of the poor and downtrodden. and then ross perot wanted to endow the chair, and he could not get him through the idea. ross perot said -- i think the story goes -- i will put up a chair for him at oral roberts. he said hesburg: wanted to set up this chair. in the jewish religion, you don't maintain's after people until they are dead. and he said don't tell me that, i have named the symphony in dallas. when we