we talking these things and try to understand why people. >> just to remind people, shirley sherrod wasagricultural official who was the focus of a deceptively edited video who made her appear to be racist when she was just the opposite. the next day he apologized and said he hadn't done his home work. when you say it's a consistent programming strategy, you're not saying it's the individual hosts that you have a problem with but the whole network demonizes the black people and that seems overstated. >> well in the book i did point out that built o'reilly did apologize about her but there were others. and in that chapter, i point out several different instances where fox hosts seemed to cross the line in terms of talking about scary black people and either offered these sort of very unofficial apologies that were not disciplined. and i think when you see something happen over and over and over again and i've been talking about how bill o'reilly talks about race on fox, since 2002, and when you see something like this happen again and again and again and people are not significantly disc

. >> well, let's throw in shirley sherrod's name, and also, there have been a number of others out theretara, are mccain and graham not giving up on libya because they're afraid of getting primaried? are they trying to go hard right to keep people away from them? >> well, i think this absolutely has 100% to do with politics. like you said earlier, ed, it is a political witch hunt. lindsey graham is definitely probable going to face a primary challenge. so he's trying to burnish his conservative credentials. and also, i want to add that this was never about susan rice. this is 100% about president barack obama. this is an attack on him. they weren't able to get him during this campaign. they threw everything at him, including the kitchen sink. and he still came out victorious. his approval ratings are going up. and like jim demint said, he said he wanted to break president obama. i believe this to be part of an ongoing strategy to try to do that. >> a number of people have said that these attacks on susan rice are racially motivated. senator graham responded to this earlier today. here it