seijiro takeshita is a professor at the university of shizuoka. at the postponement of the games. well, to make a long story short, we are all gutted. of course, there is the physical side. the economic aspect, but moreover, it's the psychological negative let down that people are feeling. many japanese were seeing this olympics as an ignition point to get ourselves out of this, the last decade, the last two decades, where japan had been stagnating. it was some kind of icon of the psychological legacy that would put us into a new phase. that's the reason why we are really looking forward to this olympics. so many people are quite gutted over the fact that it's been postponed and possibly cancelled as well. of course, i'm really sorry to hear. let's break it down. you talk about different types of losses. i mean, the economic loss, people coming from all over the world to japan and lots of things being built, on the on the olympic villages and all of that. what's happening with all of that right now? the estimate is basically between 4 trillion to