therefore, the creation of such a clear partnership, therefore, as we see in lugano the answers of denys shmygel, the prime minister of ukraine, to the questions of the gathered public who want to participate in the restoration of ukraine, but just now the prime minister was asked about the successes of ukraine in the fight against corruption, well, obviously there will be many such questions because foreigners want to understand that they they give money to the authorities that are fighting corruption and that are making some progress in this direction. well, of course , representatives of nato and the european union articulate the same questions when they talk about possible membership of ukraine in the european union or the north atlantic alliance. i hope that pavlo klimkin, diplomat, politician, a person who headed the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine for five years, from 2015 to 2014 to 2019, will join our conversation again, and we will continue our conversation. since we have already started talking about the results of the summit in e-e madrid and about the requirements set by fore

pavla , of course we watched the broadcast from lugano and from shmygel, the first question that foreignershat are your successes in the fight against corruption and how fundamental will these issues be in the fight against corruption the reform of the security service of ukraine, the judicial system of the prosecutor's office, the higher anti-corruption court , the independence, to what extent ukraine will be able to respond promptly and quickly to the issues that are formulated by the measure now before ukraine and in relation to nato and regarding recovery and regarding the european union, yes. these are the same issues, it is perfectly clear, uh, they are important for nato, important for the eu, but in fact, they are important for us, in the end, we do it all we do it not for the eu and not for us for myself, it is generally quite a funny situation when we said , well, even in our country, the eu requires it, and we don’t really need it, so why do we need the whole process of joining the eu ? also do here there is no doubt er, 100% of the tasks will be very many. you say that this is a

shmygel, the wishes of the country. here are the ones that were voiced .as you are not feeling well right now , tell me for a start about what is happening there now and what results we expect here, the things that were voiced, they were voiced here directly from the key stage of the event, the prime minister is present, the speaker is present of our parliament, the president of the euro commission and other top persons, in fact, the event is really planned, it was planned as an event about reforms, the annual event of that year was supposed to be the fifth event, but unfortunately, because of the curses of the moskals, today we have to talk about the restoration and reconstruction of ukraine, and not about those e- reforms which, well, yes, which for obvious reasons, the last months have had a much slower pace. and sometimes you can see some negative aspects of it, but it is a war, it is clear about what plan was announced by the government of ukraine first of all, about the so-called map of the structure of recovery, the magic of the future of a certain

from, again, you already mentioned about the proposal made by the ukrainian prime minister denys shmygel that it is possible to allocate frozen russian funds frozen in the west for the reconstruction of ukraine about approximately 300 or 500 billion dollars. even he himself could not name the exact price of the already frozen funds. so it is possible that some part of those funds, but i would be quite careful here , because it is one thing to freeze funds, in particular funds that belong, for example, to specific russian entrepreneurs or companies and it is another matter to confiscate them and transfer them to something else, for this, a legislative framework, legal grounds, simply to take money from someone and give it to someone else, will be required, e.g. western governments in countries under the supremacy they won't be able to pass the law just like that, but besides , let's say for actions, maybe for the use of frozen funds, maybe part of the funds are promises of governments, there are statements of support from international organizations, such as the international monetary fun

and infrastructure, energy dependence and financial stability, according to prime minister denys shmygel, the program will be implemented in three stages: the first is the immediate reconstruction of critically important objects, the second is the restoration of everything that was destroyed the third is the long-term transformation of the economy and the social sphere of the country. ukraine proposes that the main source of funding for the program should be the frozen assets of russia, the value of which is currently up to 500 billion dollars. we believe that the key source of recovery should be the confiscated assets of russian russia and russian oligarchs . war, they caused these large-scale destructions and they should be held responsible for this . russia's frozen assets are estimated to be between 300 and 500 billion dollars. countries have already begun the processes of not just freezing but confiscating these assets. i am grateful to germany. for the first steps, i am grateful to canada and the usa . i am sure that all partner countries will join this process and ensure this just

five candidates for the position of leader i ask the cabinet of ukraine to be honest, i only hear shmygel'she public domain when the next person plans to resign, and this is not normal because he is the prime minister, he is the head of the executive power, he is responsible for a lot of things in the functioning of the state, not an office the president, so where would i start, that he definitely spent in a clear watershed? so what does he do? it seems that he is responsible for all the same, even though he receives instructions from rocks, maybe there is a ukrainian crisis in the banking sector, too, it should be good the president to figure out who is responsible for what next, the government definitely needs a significant increase in personnel, and this was obvious on the day of his appointment. we will discuss the issue of political rotations, which obviously, in this situation, it is unlikely that any qualitative changes will come. i think this is a road to nowhere, so that the letters of the candidates, uh, i saw such a collective swindle, too, and i did not see there is no one, it i

shmygel, the prime minister of ukraine, there was the first point that transformation is the first stagef restoring what is possible here and now, regardless of what will happen next is this restoration taking place here and now in kharkiv, or is it too early to talk about it again now, because it requires both money and effort, and in such a situation, it is very difficult to start this restoration here and now, as far as kharkiv and kharkiv region are concerned, it was highlighted 250 million of them, uh, well, almost half of them are allocated to kharkiv. at the moment , the objects that can be restored so that people can live in them are being rebuilt. ivanov a member of the kharkiv city council, a volunteer from as they say, the slobid capital, and from the city of kharkiv, the city of kharkiv, the pp kharkiv is under fire every day from the russian belgorod, rockets fly up, aim at e kharkiv, you know one of those well, they say that there are no good russians. i never look for good russians and bad russians are just people, and there is an overwhelming majority of non-humans, that'