we should say, shoaib mansoor... shoaib mansoor, yes, absolutely.n's leading film directors... absolutely. ..and respected around the world now. yes, respected around the world. and then came bol, which touched on even more sensitive issues, and then now he's made verna. so making a film with a man like shoaib mansoor was not difficult because that's what he does. there is a disclaimer at the beginning of the movie which you made a point, i think, of tweeting out, it says: "everything in this film is imaginary. imaginary because the reality is too bitter to be told or shown. events shown in this film are like jokes compared to what has been happening in countries like ours. " was this a film made out of anger? yes, absolutely. absolutely. i can speakfor him, he will never ever speak out himself because he doesn't — once he wraps a film, he sort of goes back home and shuts his doors. so i know that it's definitely a film made out of anger and a lot of frustration, for sure. how do you make accessible rape in a country which, it has to be said, has a

we should say, shoaib mansoor... shoaib mansoor, yes, absolutely. he's one of pakistan's leading film directors... absolutely. and respected around the world now. yes, respected around the world. and then now he's made verna. was not difficult because that's what he does. "everything in this film is imaginary. imaginary because the reality is too bitter to be told or shown. been happening in countries like ours. was this a film made out of anger? absolutely. he sort of goes back home and shuts his doors. and a lot of frustration, for sure. has a problem with sexual violence that is endemic. in pakistan every two or three hours. right. is in your country? because there were so many people who were going to watch it. for me, as an actor, i really did not know how i can... written like that, right. and also, there wasn't a scene which showed the rape. so there was no visual representation of the rape. i what you to be angry. almost he looked at rape, that's how i played it. in pakistan was going to ban the movie. yes, yes, of course. yeah, more than an