in 1984 i moved in on 20th and shotwell. i'm on 20th and bryant now. the 2500 a night corporate rental fee, that's my neighborhood. so i support what marie is saying. if this is going to have pictures of nuns bowls and kids frolicking then let's make a family-friendly place. let's not make it like urban bowl which has hours kids can't go there because they are serving booze, let's see it as a family place that will be a good place for gaming and to keep kids occupied, similarly to what mission rec is. it's a safe place and doesn't serve drinks. so this whole pictures i've been showing you which i will turn in though i thought i sent it to you by e-mail. there are game machines there but it's a bar. and using the loophole of bonified restaurant which we are changing now in map 2020 because of the loopholes, we were talking about the oversaturation of alcohol in the neighborhood. this is less than 600 feet from the schools. there's also an elementary school at the church within a couple of meters away. and there's $250 a day fine. have they paid it? beca

i would ask the commission to look at shotwell as a whole because there's a lot of conversion that's happening from pdr into tech office space so that's a big concern, because we are talking about what's legally allowed and that's correct. but the fact is we are losing our pdr spaces and we are in the process of trying to preserve that through map 2020. thank you for your time. >> thank you. you get a two-minute rebuttal. >> so i just want to reiterate , this arcade is not going to hap. i think that's crystal leer so there's not a concession to be had. the only thing in the discretionary review i agree with is kevin checked the box on no, he didn't reach out to the in the neighborhood notification. when he says multiple opportunities, he backtracked to no we can't have alcohol and now he's trying to tell me hours to open my business. he's using data of how much a private event cost when this wasn't open to the public. [off mic] >> you are out of order. >> my pricing is that's what was happening in the past so we are nonprofit events. he's not hiring those. that's a mischaracterizatio

shotwell is a very small street. this is not the kind of usage that any of us had ever heard of , and they taking down the sign. we don't know what is going on in there. >> you already got to speak. anyone else from the public want to comment on a potential continuance? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner moore? >> i received sufficient number of e-mails to question that this project has been properly vetted by those who have concerns about it. i want to give them the voice in front of us, particularly because the continued displacement of p.d.r. it should be a concern to all of us. i would like to support it continuance and feel comfortable pushing it out. >> to what date? >> that is our secretary's call to make. >> we can continue it one week until november 14th. >> second. >> okay. >> i am comfortable with the 14 th. >> on that motion to continue item 21 to november 14th... [roll call] that motion passes 3-2. commissioners, that will place is under your consent calendar. all matters listed here con

have these second and third of trauma andts the american people accepting community back in they've shotwelle rifles, they signed the up theand gassed airplanes and sent young men and there so we can build tv's and xboxs. that's what we do. but we can never lose sight of that as an element of leadership military, those basic -- tenets are essential so we continue to survive as a marine .orps, 250 more christmases >> one of the things that's that i wish me people would understand, you start sending young men to their seventh and ninth tours, at some point they're going to break. goinge point something's to go wrong. that doesn't mean you excuse them. i'm in agreement with scott on this. you cannot excuse it but you with disdain or moral superiority -- oh, this committed this horrible thing, he killed a prisoner or dead body or whatever it was. it's part of the same tragedy as war itself was but you have to punish them because otherwise civilizing thread is broken and you never get it back but or punish them without hate without moral superiority. you punish them with sadness because they fina