this is serious in a twha, like a lot of other things the president may want to shroff it off and sortf bedpan it. this is going to have a real long term impact. it's not just the campaign finance piece that they may get caught newspape caught up in, but the consequences of violating new york charitable laws could be very, very profound and not just hit the wallet, but that comes with jail time. >> stephanie, can you speak to that? we can talk about how at the least it's completely cheesy to pay your boy scout $7 fee from your charitable trust making you wonder does ivanka buy her girl scout cookies from their trust. but what does this mean for them opt tickally, the three eldest children, eric junior and his work, ivanka and donald junior, it was sort of his whole brand. >> i think it makes everything suspect from here on out in terms of how they operate. it was -- but i didn't want to -- i feel like i'm saying the same thing over and over. when i saw this suit get filed i'm like well of course did i, this is how they ran their business, this is how they're running the government. of