does that mean that we might hear more from shuggie bain at some point? there's a lot more of shuggie to learn about, isn't there? and are we going to? there is a lot for shuggie, a lot more to come for shuggie, i think. i don't know that — i won't commit to that today. i'm not quite sure if i will write about him some more. the reason why i left shuggie where he is in the book is because, really, the book is about the end of agnes and the beginning of shuggie. but i wanted readers to feel a little bit of a responsibility to the future of this young boy and to think about intergenerational poverty and all the headwinds that were sort of blowing against shuggie in that moment, and just to sit back and wonder, "wow, will he make it and what will he make of himself?" because everything's — there for shuggie, but it could go many different ways and i think that was what i really wanted readers to focus on. douglas stuart, it's been fascinating talking to you. thank you very much forjoining me on hardtalk. thank you. as yesterday, today is shaping up to be a da