an obituary in the citizen-times in asheville, north carolina, for sandra shuler thomas in july encouragingourners to use her death as motivation to vote in the coming presidential elect n election. in lieu of flowers, think of mrs. thomas while casting your vote to remove president trump from office, it said. these are the unfiltered voices of grief from families paying the price for donald trump's delusions and failures. but as far as trump is concerned, it is what it is. the american presidency detached from reality is where we start today. axios national political reporter jonathan swan, who we saw in that clip is here. plus professor of journalism and politics and a contributor for the grio, jason johnson, and former democratic senator claire mccaskill. this is a tour de force, to say the least, jonathan. so kudos that have been repeated all across the journalistic spectrum, all across the spectrum of anyone who cares about what's happening in this country today. but of the many, many things that you were able to extract from the president in this interview, the one that i think so man