shulman, for being here. we are all talking about limited dollars, and we need to spend our dollars the best way we possibly can. i was reading a report just recently from the treasury inspector general attacks administrations have done billions of dollars in federal education credits that were issued in error. and what i'm really time to get to hear is number one, to say, nature we're giving them into people that really deserve the money so that we can use it in the budgetary process to fund those places, such as yourself, that can continue to do a good job. but it's very disturbing when i see here how much money this represents that was potentially given to those who don't deserve it. and i just want to read a couple things out of that report. 1.7 million taxpayers we cede 2.6 billion in education credits for students for whom there was no supporting documentation in the irs files. that they even attended an educational institution. almost 380,000 of these individuals claimed the students were not eligible

commissioner shulman for the work you're doing.iously a lot of issues are pending, but i've had a chance to review the national taxpayer advocate report and i'm sure you bought the irs to pay attention to that as well. obviously the disturbing trends they see in that report is mainly the inadequacy and sunday for the iris to do your job adequately insert citizens of our country. in particular they were concerned about because of funding cuts in the inadequacy of resources, but that means to the irs ability to address the noncompliance issue have you got tax gap opposite everyone realizes, the concern is will only grow wider if there is a lack of confidence or belief in the irs when it comes to compliance measures it will only exacerbate the situation. but you agree with the report was standing in regards to enforcement of noncompliance? >> bulloch, we have budget cuts and they try to do the best we can. we touch for a while about service and we haven't to let about compliance. you know, clearly we are doing less expands this year a

commissioner douglas shulman was on capitol hill last week testifying about this year's tax filing season noting that the agency has 5,000 fewer employees than last year. the commissioner requested an 8% budget increase for 2013 with an increases focus on tracking fraud after the i.r.s. found $14 billion in fraudulent refunds last year. the department's budget has been cut the past two years. mr. shulman's testimony before the house, ways and means subcommittee on oversight is about an hour. >> thank you very much to all of the members of the subcommittee for giving me the opportunity to testify today. i want i want to talk a little bit about filing season, our strategic initiatives, and the president's 2013 budget which would give us a much needed increase over the 2012 inactive levels. a significant portion of the president's 2013 budget would restore congressional reductions in irs funding made over the last two years. i want to start by saying that i believe it is incumbent on all those in the government to be as efficient as possible and spend taxpayer dollars wisely. the irs, that m

thank you. >> commissioner shulman, thank you. i apologize for arriving very late. before i recognize mr. reid for his questions -- i'm going to recognize you, but i also want to take a moment to recognize floyd williams for his 15 years of service at the irs has a total of 25 years of service and i went to thank you as you move onto what i i hope is a good retirement. thank you for your service. but that, mr. redirected mr. five minutes. >> thank you very much for being here with us today. commissioner, i would like to explore -- i really try to rely on data when we make decisions here in congress. one thing that i have a concern with is on the enforcement initiatives you have certain projections on investment for those enforcement initiatives. i am sure you are familiar with the issue of talk about here. i believe 2013 you proposed enforcement initiative for return on investment will be 1.921. 2015 the project, to spend her sanders turn return on the investment will be 4.3 to half one historically, i read some reports that projected by 2012 who is supposed to be 7

shulman, for being here. we're talking about live with it dollars, and we need to spend them in the best we can. i was reading a report recently from the treasury inspector general for tax administration found billions of dollars in federal education credits that were issued in error. what i'm trying to get here is to make sure we are giving the money to people who deserve the money so we can use it in the budgetary process to find -- fund those places that continue to do a good job. it is disturbing when i see how much money this represents that was potentially given to those who do not deserve it. i want to read a couple of things out of the report. 1.7 million taxpayers receive $2.6 billion in education credits for students for whom there was no supporting documentation in the irs files. almost 380 thousands of these individuals claimed students were not eligible because they did not attend the required amount of time or postgraduate students, resulting in erroneous education credits. 64,000 of those erron

founder of the chopra foundation will be speaking on and on april 5, douglas shulman, the commissionue service. second, i would like to present our kids with the traditional press club mug. >> all right. >> it holds more than three ounces of liquids. [laughter] spent and the last question, have you ever had to be submitted to a pat down when going through airport security? >> multiple times. i go through security every time. one of my recent international trips, i was transiting through a well-known western european hub, and went through a metal detector and i knew i had no metal on me yet the alarm went off there they sit over here. they didn't know i was. and i received a thorough pat down. i complement the security officer on the thoroughness of his pat down and made me stand up straight. so i do. [laughter] >> how about a round of applause for our speaker today? [applause] thank you all for coming. i would also like to thank the national press club staff, including its journalism institute and the broadcast center for organizing today's event. finally, here's a reminder that you