shutsba. and i applaud america who will have this even if romney wins because even if the republicans take back the senate, they are not going to have enough votes to block the democrats who will filibuster it. once people get the affordable act, there will be no going back. this is a done deal. >> the problem is, it is not affordable. if you look at this -- it was never about affordabilities. it was about access. you talked about how nobody could afford it. it was about covering people. the only way you will cover those people is by forcing other people to pay. there will be a lot of people that report going to pay. the thing that gets me mad is there is no competition involved. congress gets 8 to 10 to choose from. >> they are better than you. >> i forgot about that. they are. >> don't forget the goal of the competition is to keep the premium prices down. the jury is out on whether or not that is actually going to work. >> here is the thing, at this po nie t does america care about the limit