secretary sibelius, i said, yes, sir.our problem in this whole debate on medicare cuts -- >> that does not include $500 billion -- there is an issue on the budget because your own actuary has said -- you cannot double count. they are attacking medicare on the cr when their bill, your law, at $500 billion in medicare. use the same money for what? state you are funding health care? your own actuary say is you cannot do both. my simple question, i have 26 seconds left, what is the $500 billion cuts for, preserving medicare or funding health care? which is it? >> sire, the affordable care act has 12 years in the medicare trust fund, and a $500 billion represents a slowdown in the growth rate of medicare over 10 years from what was projected at 8% -- >> so is that medicare, or is it a fund for health care reform? which one? >> both. >> so you are double counting. i yield back my time. >> thank you madam secretary for being here. i want to start by reacting to some of the other comments that were made. it was doctor burgess who