this is a third major terrorist attack in a row where perpetrators, some were siblingsesibling. true with "charlie hebdo" bombing and the boston marathon. they have no idea that their scaremongering is even could rat, if terrorists might face-to-face should we allow government to put monitors in everyone's home. no bod would say that government should be able to have access to every communication. kennedy: it seems that road that france is going down now, open fully that opens door for a civil liberty discussion, i want to talk to you about anonymous, the hacker grouch said they -- group says they will bring down isis. hour important are these hackerred in dealing with terrorism. >> i don't think that anonymous can bring down isis. you know, i think that what anonymous has seem -- they say they have succeeded in doing is knocking a few of them off line. i don't understand why that is a benefit. if anything you want your adversary on-line to communicate openly gather intelligence. knocking them off line does not make them disappear. we should learn the lesson of afghanistan. in 2