the former head of the news service saying her top guy, sid blumenthal came to him and said he wasn't born here. go investigate it. >> to use your words breaking tonight. we've learned something new that we've known for seven years. president barack obama is an american. it's astonishing. it's eye popping. it's shocking. >> we know that. donald trump has come to terms with that, which we'll talk about in a second. but i'm starting with you as to whether hillary is as squeaky clean on this as she would have us believe. >> politico released a -- >> they didn't cover sid blumenthal. >> what we found in the report was that there was some folks -- the name of the group is called p puma. they were democrats. they were not going to get in line and they posted a picture of the president in muslim garb. >> sid blumenthal is connected to hillary clinton. that's her top aid. her guy. her right-hand man. >> but this former reporter who i don't know, this has not been fact checked. nobody knows who this guy is. clearly they're former, that says something about it him, right? >> no it doesn't. >> i

again, that is cnn reached out to sid blumenthal.ng everyone back up, please. >> sid blumenthal has his own vested interest of not telling the truth in this story chen you have a credible media source who has a firsthand account, who has reported on this firsthand account via his twitter feed today and sent a reporter, which i'm sure you could track down the travel records to kenya at sydney blumenthal's request for the mcclatchy news service. only two things could be possible here, either the reporter is lying or sydney blumenthal is died to the clinton foundation. >> as we said it is not true. you say it is true. >> what basis do you have that it is not true. >> say you are right. beyond that, why keep going with it when you say it's from someone in the hillary clinton campaign if you know it is factually not true? if he knew today, or in 2011 when the president produced his long form birth certificate, why keep perpetuating the lie. >> the clear differentiation here is donald trump didn't raise the issue. i was raised by sydney bl

. >> the washington bureau chief said it began with sid blumenthal who asked -- >> okay.ce you brought it up i will give you a chance to respond. -- close clinton advisor said sid blumenthal personally called him to pitch this story. >> i have no idea what's that's about. hillary clinton did not do it. -- >> -- [ inaudible ] >> -- she has not questioned whether or not the president at united states -- >> she -- >> she did -- [inaudible]. >> the fak of the matter is donald trump perpetuated this movement is a precursor to his campaign, which is not at all inclusive. so when -- so if the congressional black caucus wants to get up there and say this man is racist, he's bigoted. let him diffuse that. and so far he has not. >> just a moment ago speaking on that stage within the past hour donald trump talked specifically about people saying he's a racist and here is what he said about it. >> -- the racist word, it is the oldest play in the democratic play book and americans have had inform of it. we get it. we get it. >> he's saying as the card. they are playing the card on him

sid blumenthal, longtime hrc buddy, told me in person obama born in kenya." so lots of new grist for the conspiracy theorists' mills. shannon? >> eight years later, it continues. thank you. >>> hillary clinton is trying to revitalize her campaign after a series of setbacks in the polls and with her health. fox news correspondent jennifer griffin is here with that part of the story. >> reporter: with polls showing the race to be a virtual tie, hillary clinton began her day with a joke. >> the good news is my pneumonia finally got some republicans interested in women's health. [ laughter ] >> reporter: her opponent, donald trump, declined an in invitation to address the black women's agenda, a prominent group of african-american women. >> you are proof that, yes, indeed, black girl magic is real. >> reporter: clinton need the african-american vote to win in november. >> african-american women turned out to vote more than any other group of americans in 2012. [ applause ] >> this year once again, you have your hands on the wheel of history. >> reporter: michelle

sid blumenthal, longtime hrc buddy, told me in person obama born in kenya." so lots of new grist for the conspiracy theorists' mills. shannon? >> eight years later, it continues. thank you. >>> hillary clinton is trying to revitalize her campaign after a series of setbacks in the polls and with her health. fox news correspondent jennifer griffin is here with that part of the story. >> reporter: with polls showing the race to be a virtual tie, hillary clinton began her day with a joke. >> the good news is my pneumonia finally got some republicans interested in women's health. [ laughter ] >> reporter: her opponent, donald trump, declined an in invitation to address the black women's agenda, a prominent group of african-american women. >> you are proof that, yes, indeed, black girl magic is real. >> reporter: clinton need the african-american vote to win in november. >> african-american women turned out to vote more than any other group of americans in 2012. [ applause ] >> this year once again, you have your hands on the wheel of history. >> reporter: michelle

he was approached by sid blumenthal saying that obama was from kenya and with a pursue the investigation. there is hints of where this started in the 2008 hillary campaign. the press is trying to pin it out like she is. >> i think in addition to the hillary clinton aspect of this date were expecting hoping perhaps the donald trump would somehow apologize to president obama. are you as confident that this means nothing to the black community. that it's okay in the books and other communities it's closed. i don't think they are bitter about that. they thought it was ridiculous is the reason why for many black people and certainly others that they do look at donald trump with skepticism about racist intent has questions are around why would you demand this of him. the issue is the hillary clinton comes he comes a big hypocrite when she starts to criticize on this issue because obviously hillary herself did not make these claims but certainly it's been proven that those were supporters and volunteers that absolutely made an effort to paint barack obama as in other was very nasty. what the qu

in her own campaign in 2008, sid blumenthal in the approach to mcclatchey news in d.c., the iowa operative that eventually was fired from the clinton campaign for pushing this, or mark penn who was one of the key advisers to hillary clinton in the 2008 campaign, very respected political operative in the democratic party, he was even saying there's an opportunity here to kind of question some of these issues. he didn't specifically mention the birth issues but it was very clearly there. look, it's over. i know the press, they're furious at donald trump because they got punked yesterday, pure and simple. everybody should have learned from the primaries that you're not going to somehow outshow manship donald trump. he is going to come out on top of that every time and he proved yesterday that once again he owned the press. some say that wasn't very smart, now they're going to be against him. hello, they're already against him. and there's nothing he's ever going to do ever. he could buy them all a lifetime supply of trump steaks and they're not going to like him, they're not going to want to

who is closer to hillary than sid blumenthal who told me face to face. wow. that was an indictment. good for him for telling the truth. >> his nickname is vicious sink. but this is what's going to happen. if you denied that your camp had nothing to do with it, chances are that other people are going to come forward saying wait a second, somebody was trying to push this over in 2008. >> nobody has been obsessed with the birther issue more than chris matthews. let's go back to chris mat throu matthews. but he says something that's relevant in 2007 blaming hillary. >> i've watched the blogs try to say that you can't trust him because he spent a little bit of time in a secular -- are they pretending to sell obama in here's hillary clinton defending him. i think the remarks were very positive. i know bob. he was being very complimentary of senator obama. making a point that senator obama makes himself all of the time that because of his upbringing and heritage, it's in his view very well suited to communicate with the rest of the world. and he's just said himself he wants a particular ou

the front page of their site, tweets from james asher, former bureau chief of the mcclacclatchy, sid blumenthg hrc buddy told me in person obama born in kenkenya, and mr. blumenthal asked him and plaque clatchy to investigate this. it's like with the pneumonia incident. >> let me tell what you we know so far. james asher, mcclatchy did tweet that. cnn reached out to sidney blumenthal and said this is false. >> well, yeah. >> hang on. cnn's contacted james asher and reached out to the clinton campaign staffers who said sidney blumenthal did not work for the campaign. yes, he's a friend of hillary clinton -- >> on h -- >> let me finish. yes, he's a friend of hillary clinton. at this point we're looking into this further, but that is where that all ises are and i want th point this to maggie. even if sidney blumenthal -- he denied it to cnn but even if he did do that, is there equivalency between that and -- and donald trump for five years talking about this? >> there is not. i mean, if sidney blumenthal did that, that is something i suspect hillary clinton will get asked about. sidney blumentha

who is closer to hillary than sid blumenthal who told me face-to-face. wow, that was a pretty powerful indictment and good for him for telling the truth. >> his nickname is vicious sid. this is what is going to happen now. if you deny your camp had nothing to do with it, chances are that other people are going to come forward and say, well, wait a second, somebody was trying to push this over the transom in 2008. >> nobody has been obsessed with the birther issue more than chris matthews. i know, thrill up his leg, the whole bit, but he said something relevant at the time in 2007, blaming hillary. >> i've watched the blogs try to say that you can't trust him because he spent a little time in a secular madrasa. >> so is hillary, pretending to cello bauma but clearly putting the shiv in. here is hillary clinton defending him and bob carrie. i think the remarks were very positive. i know bob. he was being very complimentary of senator obama. he was making a point that senator obama makes himself all the time, that because of his upbringing and his heritage h

the saying sid blumenthal asked him to investigate obama's ties and send a reporter to kenya. donald trump was busy being a successful businessman that year. hillary clinton never saw obama coming. so i guess they resorted to desperate tactics. >> thank for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> up next, the man who doesn't make the stage gary johnson joins us live and the predebate experts. >> announcer: "this week" with george stephanopoulos brought to you by pacific life. helping generations of families to achieve long term financial security for over 145 years. like a human fingerprint, no two whale flukes are the same. because your needs are unique, pacific life has been delivering for more than 145 years. ask a financial advisor how you can tailor solutions from pacific life to help you reach your financial goals. don't let dust and allergens get between you and life's beautiful moments. flonase gives you more complete allergy relief. most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance. flonase controls 6. and six is greater than one. flonase changes everything. ?

sid blumenthal long time buddy told me in person obama born in kenya.second tweet he says blumenthal asked mcclachy to investigate this. if that is correct what we've got here today is a massive fraud. >> let me tell you what we know about this so far. cnn reached out to sidney blumenthal. he said this is false. cnn is also trying to reach -- hang on. let me finish. i'm just being transplaarent abt where we are with the story. since you brought it up. cnn also reached out to asher. and to clinton campaign staffers to their knowledge at that time sidney blumenthal didn't work for the campaign. >> oh -- >> let me finish. telling you what we know here. he did not work for the campaign but yes he is a friend of hillary clinton. at this point we're looking into this further but that is where that all is. and i want to put this to maggie right now. the qualitative difference. even if you take this all -- even if sidney blumenthal did this do this. and at this point we don't know. he denied it to cnn. is there equivalence between that and donald trump for five

sid blumenthal, in my opinion, is a total sleazeball. the campaign may have tolerated underhanded tactics. what kind of defense is that, that the other campaign did bad things and then i spent five years, sort of proud of spending five years really hyping this issue, the birther issue. i think that hurt trump. i think the tax return issue hurt him the most. >> absolute. >> that was the moment, the first 15, 20 minutes, trump was demagoguing on trade. it was a reasonably effective argument by trump. you're the status quo, part of the problem. if you like the way things are going, vote for hillary. if you want trade, if you want the trade deals renegotiated, i'm the person who will bring change. that had to be his core message. his core message had to be i'm change, she's the status quo. trade is a pretty good way for him to frame that issue. she was awkward on tpp. then tax returns came up and she clobbered him on that. very effectively laid out the problem with him not releasing his tack returns. when you look at the debates, you have to

to bring up the name sid blumenthal, a name that nobody recognizes, why would that defend him?> he was naming the person who went to mcclatchy. he gave a very specific example. he said this person, went to mcclatchy, respected news organization, is what mr. trump said tonight, and that mcclatchy folks actually sent a reporter to kenya. >> i know the story. that sounds legitimate, but the question put to him by the moderator, lester holt, was, why did you persist for five years in hitting this point that the president wasn't legitimate? what did that have to do with sim blumenthal? >> what he said was, i'm just going to repeat what he said for you. he said it started with clinton campaign associates. >> i know. >> hold on. then he said, he was born in this country and i want to move on to creating jobs and defeating isis. and look at the top issues. >> back to the debate, hillary clinton had a very structured strategy tonight. point by point she hit him on personal matters, whether she said rightly or wrongly, perhaps wrongly, he inherited $14 million -- >> that's wrong. >> that

roots and the iowa vol unteer coordinator and then the mcclatchy bureau chief has confirmed that sid blumenthalold him that senator obama was born in kenya and they sent somebody to check it out. and so, donald trump was not running in 2002, hillary clinton was. and so donald trump said he put it to the rest based on the information, and so he said that he is moving on, period, and moving on the things that he talked about, the reform, child care tax e credits and the endorsement of the fraternal order of the police, and they did not endorse anybody four years ago and endorsed the more popular and likable clinton in 1996, but more happy with developments like that. >> and what i am curious about is who cares tab clinton incident, and donald trump for five years perpetuated this. this has been arguably part of his political identity for the last five years, and so what difference does it make if clinton does it, and why do two wrongs make a right, and forget the clinton incident for a minute, but why did he perpetuate it for five years after some associate from hillary clinton in your words? >>

he didn't send it to somebody like sid blumenthal who was hacked by romanian hackers, he didn't sendher or not it was secret or not to. he kept it on the cell cell pho, put it on the pad, then attempted to destroy the ipad which is probably one of the reasons he was prosecuted. but if crime is defined as harm, there was absolutely zero harm in this young man taking the selfie and sending it nowhere. stuart: you cannot say the same thing about hillary clinton sending messages to sidney blumenthal who was hacked by a foreigner, put it like that. >> and who had no security clearance whatsoever. stuart: it's a disgrace, in my personal opinion. >> it's a very, very bad attack on the rule of law when people are treated differently with respect to the criminal law because of their last name. or because of the job that they're seeking. stuart: i really want to get to a new twist in the foundation story which you revealed to fox and fox business earlier today. that charity, the foundation, was not registered as a charity until way after it was supposed to have been registered. that means peop

blumenthal -- >> you won't tell us about it. >> sid bloomenthal -- >> boris, boris, you won't tell us -- boris, you won't tell us anything about the trump foundation. we don't know what it does. you won't release donors, you won't release -- >> the foundation has been giving to charities -- >> where does it get its money, boris? how much has trump given to his own foundation in the last five years? >> that's out there. >> it's not out there. >> there's a private foundation, he's a private individual. he's given hundreds of millions of dollars to charities -- >> hundreds of millions of dollars, is that documented anywhere? >> as to what david said about foundations not taking other people's money, that is incorrect. the gates foundation and other major foundations, take outside money. and then give that money out to charity. that is absolutely standard practice. david is trying to make himself a career out of this. >> hundreds of millions of dollars, correct? >> mr. trump has given over $100 million to charities throughout his career. >> come back with some documents on that. we'd love