brooksomething that mel did, sid caesar did, and that is how i was trained at the office, and tina feye value on the hard joke, and i wanted that to be in my show. >> what is a hard joke question the >> i will tell you what it is not, if that is ok. there is a lot of shows that are with attitude, and it is irreverent attitude, which, by the way, is very interesting, and fashion and poses. a hard joke to me, first of all, makes you laugh out loud. in a lot of comedies that i watched -- by the way, i am not saying necessarily that my show would make you laugh out loud. i think it is funny. a show that sounds like it is like a crafted joke, and it has that. yes. >> exactly. >> well-written. know that it has been fine tuned. people like seinfeld have said that it is not easy. they finally stop the seinfeld show because it was not easy, and they wanted to almost dropped a truck of money on him. he was, no, i was writing on christmas eve last year. it is hard. >> it is hard, particularly a master of jokes, because he is so good. fills his whole life, and it seems he is filling his life with