>> thompso iuto sidney powell about all this. ill massive voter fraud across this country. >> thompson: powell widely promoted the dominion nspiracy theory. powell and others forto su defamation. all of her lawsuits would be dismissed, and a federal judge would heavily sanctioner for bringing baseless theories into court. >> patriots, rise! >> thompson: but there was a broader campaign to sway the public. >> colonel, please introduce yourself. >> good afternoon, senator, colonel, and gentlemen, ladies. my name is phil waldron. i'm a retired army colonel of 30 years. >> thompson: at the center of that effort was phil waldron who worked with asog. waldron traveled the country speaking to state legislators, telling them that the election was tainted by fraud. >> so all of these election systems have a common dna. >> thompson: pennsylvania, michigan, georgia, and arizona, where crowds gathered to watch. >> the voting systems in the u.s. were built to be manipulated. they've been used in stolen elections around the world, in venezuela,

on november 19th sounds like sidney, sidney powell, are getting inundated with evidence of fraud. make a plan. release the kraken. save us from the left taking american down. my goodness. >> the facts are clear here. this is unbelievable. you have the wife of a sitting supreme court justice advocating for an insurrection, advocating for overturning a legal election to the sitting president's chief

include sidney powell. >> she says just forwarded your gmail and email i sent to jared this morning.. and sidney powell pushing this person who even people in the white house wanted her to get out of this process. it raises some questions about the january 6th committee. do they need to get more from ginni thomas about all of this? >> certainly one of the next big questions is will they try to subpoena ginni thomas after seeing these messages? these are just 29 messages. who else was she texting? were there more text messages between her and meadows going forward or since those had evolved? but those are going to be big questions about whether the committee wants to hear directly from her about her involvement or thinking and discussions on overturning the election. >> it's a question of how involved was she potentially? she does say this. she's acknowledged she was at the january 6th rally at the ellipse. she was not at the capitol. we are living through what feels like the end of america. most of us are disgusted with the vp and listening mode to see where to fight with our teams.

chief among them sidney powell c who is a discredited actor in all of this.distancing. the white house was trying to distance itself from sidney powell and meadows responded she doesn't have anything or at least won't share if she does. and then there is what if any connection ginni thomas has to january 6 itself. she has admitted that she attended that speech. the stop the steal rally outside of the ellipse on january 6 but said she want home before it was over because she was cold and had nothing to do with what took place here at capitol. but she did have thoughts about it and she shares those thoughts four days after the insurrection. she wrote on jon 10th, we are living through what feels like the end of america. most of us are discussed with the vp and are listening to see where to fight with our teams those who attack the capital are not representative of our great teams of representatives for djt. amazing times, the end of liberty. so victor, we peel back how ginni thomas felt during this period of time and shes one of the few americans that have dire

people like sidney powell.p's outside legal team, someone who even became too fringy for rudy giuliani as she tried to have arguments to seize voting machines and said there was -- tried to argue there was foreign interference. also sort of passed along spiritual and spiritual guidance and some religious support to mark meadows, who at times did respond to some of her text messages. described the election as the greatest heist of our history. this was someone when was seeped in false conspiracy theories and very attuned to them as they were playing on cable news and she was in the weeds trying to communicate this in a direct way to the white house. >> they are amazing. worth a read. jackie, mike, john, thank you all so much for spending time with us on these headlines. a quick break force us. we'll be right back. stay with us. us wayfair has everything i need to make my home totally me. sometimes, i'm a homebody. can never have too many pillows! sometimes, i'm all business. a serious chair for a serious busines

. >> yeah, "the posts" reports, thomas pushed meadows to work closely with sidney powell, one of the lawyers that supported conspiracy theories to help trump overturn the election. thomas stood by her reportedly texting mark meadows, don't let her and your assets be marginalized. instead help her be the bead and the face. and the next day thomas sent meadows a text saying, the most important thing you can realize right now is there are no rules in war. this war is psychological, psyop, she wrote. do not grow weary in well doing. i have staked my career on it, and that's from meadows back to thomas. and she said, thank you, i needed that. i will try and keep holding on, america is worth it. previous reports say thomas and her husband refer to each other in that regard, and have done so publicly. justice thomas is not directly referenced in any of the messages, and mrs. thomas in the past said she and her husband are not involved in each other's work, and clarence thomas was the only justice that sroed against the national archives being handed over to the january 6 committee. nbc news

lynwood and sidney powell, the attorneys.small company out of texas called allied security operations group. many of these people are former military, many of these people have a background in business. and people like byrne funded this operation to sort of develop a narrative that could sway the courts and could sway the public. juan: you talk about a gathering that occurred at a plantation in south carolina. could you say more about that? what was this plantation? who owned it? who attended? >> so a lot of this activity comes out of a plantation in rural south carolina owned by a conservative paternity lynn would who was one of the attorneys involved in some of the lawsuits filed to overturn the election. there was a group of cyber experts, other litter girders -- litigators who converged on the plantation in the last weeks of november and the early december. basically, they network with folks all across the country to sort of gather information, collated come and go out and execute a rategy. their strategy was we're going

she was pushing for sidney powell to be the face of the legal team we see in these texts but what reallyriting back saying she doesn't have evidence. she's not saying anything to back up her claim and so this just really adds to this growing body of evidence that's been reported elsewhere that people in trump's inner circle, including the chief of staff at the white house, we're aware that he was, the president himself was echoing claims that were baseless and without evidence. >> and they knew it and they knew it early. it's good to see both of you. thank you very much. >>> coming up, ukraine making specific requests for the weapons it says it needs to combat russian forces. will the u.s. give president zelenskyy what he's asking for? that's next. with mucinex all-in-one you've got unbeatable relief from your worst cold and flu symptoms. so when you need to show your cold who's boss, grab mucinex all-in-one... and get back to your rhythm. ♪ don't play around with cold and flu symptoms. (driver 1) it's all you. (driver 2) no, i insist. (driver 1) it's your turn. (driver 2) nope, i think

president's strategy to overturn the election, urging meadows to make trump's controversial attorney, sidney powell, the lead and the face. on november 24th, meadows wrote, quote, this is a fight of good versus evil. thomas replied, "thank you. needed that. this plus a conversation with my best friend just now." it is unclear who ginni thomas was referring to. supreme court justice clarence thomas often refers to his wife this way -- >> i love being here with my bride, virginia, who's a gift from god and my totally best friend in the whole world. >> reporter: ginni thomas recently acknowledged she had attended president trump's rally at the ellipse prior to the attack but says she left before mr. trump addressed the crowd. ginni thomas has publicly denied any conflict of interest between her activism and her husband's work. in the one case heard by the court tied to the january 6 insutiotedo release trump white house records to the committee. there was only one dissent -- justice clarence thomas. >> that was robert costa reporting. mark meadows had no comment, and his attorney confirmed the content

president's strategy to overturn the election urging meadows to make trump's controversial attorney, sidney powell, the lead in the face. on november 24, meadows wrote thomas, "this is a fight of good versus evil." thomas replied, "thank you, needed that. this,s plus a conversation with my best friend just now." it is unclear who ginni thomas was referring to. supreme court justice clarence thomas often refers to his wife this way: >> i love being here with my bride, virginia, who is a gift from god, and my totally best friend in the whole world. >> reporter: ginni thomas recently acknowledged she had attended president trump's rally at the ellipse prior to the attack but says she left before mr. trumpcracied the crowd. ginni thomas has publicly denied any conflict of interest between her activism and her husband's work. in the one case heard by the court tied to the january 6 insurrection,s they voted to release trump white house records to the committee. there was only one dissent-- justice clarence thomas. mark meadows had no comment, though his attorney did confirm th content of the text messa

president's strategy to overturn the election, urging meadows to make trump's controversial attorney sidney powelld the face. on november 24th meadows wrote thomas, "this is a fight of good versus evil." thomas replied, "thank you. needed that. this plus a conversation with my best friend just now." it is unclear who ginni thomas was referring to. supreme court justice clarence thomas often refers to his wife this way. >> i love being here with my bride, virginia, who's a gift from god and my totally best friend in the whole world. >> reporter: ginni thomas recently acknowledged she had attended president trump's rally at the ellipse prior to the attack but says she left before mr. trump addressed the crowd. ginni thomas has publicly denied any conflict of interest between her activism and her husband's work. in the one case heard by the court tied to the january 6th insurrection they voted to release trump white house records to the committee. there was only one dissent. justice clarence thomas. mark meadows had no comment, though his attorney did confirm the content of the text messages. ginni t

thomas also pushed meadows to get behind the dubious effort by conservative lawyer sidney powell to overturnwith evidence of fraud. release the kraken. it is these type of texts that could cause problems for justice thomas. he weighed in on one case arguing the court should overturn the election results in four states. >> the problem is it creates an enormous appearance of impropriety that justice thomas is ruling on these issues when his wife is intimately involved in the underlying facts. >> jay thomas is a long-time outs outspoken conservative activist. while insisting her work is separate from her husband's they have a close personal relationship. >> my wife is totally my best friend. >> reporter: and now iz had wife is under scrutiny, justice thomas casting a dissenting vote, allowing the committee investigating january 6th to gain access to thousands of white house documents that trump tried to keep secret. several democratic senators, including ron wyden of oregon, calling on thomas to recuse himself going forward on all matters related to january 6th. at the bear minimum, justice tho

well, look, you know, kushner was not heavily involved in the whole rudy giuliani, mike flynn, sidney powelltions, right? he basically checked out of that in the post-election period and was trying to spend husband time on middle east peace. he had had a throughin which criminal established diplomatic relations. it was a big moment. he wanted to focus on getting done as much as he could in those final months and he's used that since leaving office as a basis for future business deals and so forth as well. so he was out of the country on january 6th, just returning that afternoon from saudi arabia. so i think that he offers the sort of the counter thread in that without at the time while the rudy giuliani crowd was filling the president's ear with all these fanciful claims and nonsense i call allegations. kushner was basically literally out of the country. >> reporting from the "times" say investigators are documenting how the former president's tweet that ended with, quote, be there, will be wild -- how instrumental could kushner be in terms of piecing to the those details? >> well, in terms

sounds like sydney, sidney powell, and her team are getting inundated with evidence of fraud.ding to meadows. after the insurrection on january 10th they went to block the vote and try to get mike pence to stop the presidency of joe biden. thomas writes to mark meadows, we are living proof of the end of america. most of us are disgusted with the vp, pence, and are in a listening mode where to fight with our teams. those who attacked the capitol are not great patriots for djt, donald j. trump. this is a very proactive person. private person. clarence thomas was looking at election cases and ultimately had to decide whether messages like these, public records, would end up going to the house committee. >> notably. >> thank you for this. >>> judge ketanji brown jackson is on track for confirmation. if confirmed, 51-year-old jackson will be the first black woman in the supreme court. daniella diaz has the story. >> we're keeping an eye on a handful of republicans who signaled openness to support ketanji brown jackson. three supported her for the d.c. circuit in 2021. lindsey graha

and sidney powell, and others have found out.igned by doug letter, who is congress's top lawyer. i worked with him for years. this is about a careful guy that you can get. a veteran for 40 years. he is kind of the opposite of sydney powell, and he has filed this. >> you are absolutely the expert. and by naureen do we want to rain on your parade. but you roads the book on the president. it's dedicated to the inner workings of this man's brain. he does not sign his name to anything. he does not write tax, he does not write emails. he likes everyone else doing the dirty work. given what we know, is there any chance of a paper trail? >> well, there could be something of a paper trail. and there has to be a reason why former president trump and his allies have been so assiduous, in trying to keep the january 6th investigators from getting the records from the national archives. what it could potentially show, is documentation of the lawyer, john eastman's meetings with former president trump in the run up to the january 6th insurrecti

quote, sounds like sidney powell and her team are getting inundated with evidence of fraud. messages and why they are so problematic in. >> well the big problem could be for clarence thomas. there is no real evidence right now that these text messages are central part of january 6 investigation. at this point, there is no signal that ginni thomas will be asked to testify through a volunteer means, but we see the wife of a sitting supreme court justice discussing legal theory with the most important person in the white house outside of the president himself. take a look at what she said to mark meadows on november 10th. help this great president stand firm, mark. the majority knows that biden and athe left is attempting the greatest heist of our history and he responded, i will tand firm, we will fight until there is no fight left. our country is too precious to give up on. thank you for all of do. there are 29 in possession of the select committee. this might not be the sum total of communication between meadows and thomas. this is just what meadows himself turned over to th

there's not a rudy or a sidney powell anywhere near the signature page of this pleading.would not have put their names on this if they didn't have the good toss back up their assertion that donald trump, in their opinion, committed a number of crimes, trying to overturn the election results. this pleading has brought into fine focus, at least for me. maybe i'm slow on the uptake. the fact that we're kind of living in this upside down bizarro government world. we have three co-equal branches of government and each knows what it's supposed to be doing. the legislative branch can't prosecute anybody. yet they're conducting this incredibly deep, involved, what seems to be criminal investigation of donald trump, and joy, they're filing documents in court saying we've got enough evidence to assert to a federal court donald trump committed crimes. you have the judiciary, which can't charge anybody with a crime, saying things like to the department of justice, we understand that you're prosecuting the people who breached the capitol, the foot soldiers, but they are but pawns in d

sidney powell and improved coordination will now help the cavalry come and fraud exposed and america saved." nbc has not independently reviewed the messages, but a source familiar with the materials confirmed their authenticity. all of this on the heels of the white house saying just this week it will not assert executive privilege over the testimony of jared kushner or his wife, ivanka trump. nbc's ali vitali outside the room where the committee will be conducting the interview. eugene daniels is a politico white house reporter. katie benner, "new york times" reporter. and chuck rosenberg, former cia official. ali, any word on the timing of when the committee will question jared kushner? how are we expecting today to play out? >> reporter: yeah, chris, just a few floors up from where i'm standing we expect the committee to have a participatory interview with jared kushner. he'll be appearing virtually. he is one of the most high-profile figure from the trump white house, the first member of the trump family to talk with the january 6th committee and that's one of the more significan

the cracken is how sidney powell described herself. then there's january 6th herself.ence and chaos on capitol hill and said, quote, we are living through what feels like the end of america. most of us are disgusted with the vp and are in listening mode to see where to fight with with our teams. those who attacked the capitol. amazing times, the end of liberty. this is the wife of a supreme court justice suggesting that mike pence, the vice president, should have stood in the way of a certification of the election results. it is now part of the january 6th investigation. erin? >> incredible stuff though. thank you very much, ryan. and thanks to all of you. ac 360 begins right now. >>> good evening. at the end of a busy and highly consequential day in and around the worst conflict since the second world war. we begin with characterization of it, which is almost certainly not true. that said, it's important to show you because it illustrates what russia wants the rest of the world to think about the war which it refuses to call a war or an invasion. it's a tweet from rus

on november 19th sounds like sidney, sidney powell, are getting inundated with evidence of fraud.ake a plan. release the kraken. save us from the left taking american down. my goodness. >> the facts are clear here. this is unbelievable. you have the wife of a sitting supreme court justice advocating for an insurrection, advocating for overturning a legal election to the sitting president's chief of staff and she also knows this election, these cases, are going to come before her husband. this is a textbook case for removing him, recusing him from these decisions. i don't think -- all i hear is silence from the supreme court right now. that better change in the coming week because every other federal judge in the country except supreme court justices would have a guidance from ethics rules saying you have to recuse yourself. thomas recused himself in 1995 from a case involving a school because his son was going to that school. justice breyer recused himself when his wife was on the board of an entity that came before the supreme court. >> if he doesn't recuse himself? >> the integr

she was referring to sidney powell. in the past, mrs.each other's work, but it's important to note justice thomas was the only one to vote against the national archives handing over records to the january 6th committee and he dissented when the supreme court rejected trump's election challenges. garrett haake, a lot to kind of unpack here, garrett. tell us more about these explosive messages between ginni thomas and mark meld does and what the committee might do with them. >> reporter: chris, these texts are as reported by the post a combination of motivational and conspiratorial. the post reports thomas was sending texts to meadows with various different conspiracies related to the election and urged him to stay in the fight, to try to stop what they called a heist of the 2020 election. we're out to ginni thomas, mark meadows' attorney trying to get more comment from them. haven't had much luck. as for the committee itself, i don't think there's much of a nexus between these texts and the committee's investigation. ginni thomas is not s

the post reports that ginni thomas also pushed meadows to work closely with sidney powell one of thelawyers who promoted conspiracy theories to help trump overturn the election and when trump decided to distance himself from powell, thomas stood by her, reportedly november 13th, ten days after the election, don't let her and your assets be marginalized. instead, helper be the lead and the face. the the next day thomas sent meadows a text that she said was from louie gohmert's chief of staff. the most important thing you can realize right now is that there are no rules in war. this war is psychological. psyops. november 24th message to thomas, the post says meadows wrote this. this is a fight of good versus evil. evil always looks like the victor until the king of kings triumphs. do not grow weary in well doing. the fight continues. i have staked my career over it. thomas responded enthusiastically, to that message from meadows saying thank you, needed that. this plus a conversation with my best friend just now, i will try to keep holding on. america is worth it. it's unclear who thom

she was pushing a lawyer who she thought they should be using and that was sidney powell.ed up before the supreme court. and other cases related to trump did. what was striking is mark m meadows seemed to be on the one hand i know he was telling senate republican leadership there's going to be a peaceful transition of power and he's describing this as a fight between good and evil. i was struck by how much he seemed to be telling everybody what they wanted to hear. >> talking out of all sides of his mouth. that's a good point. thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> will smith is now apologizing to chris rock for slapping him at the oscars. cnwe have new developments in t oscar drama. it was telling when he apologized during his acceptance speech for best actor. he did not apologize to chris rock. here we have this. >> you're right. notably absent in his acceptance speech in his apologies to the nominees and the academy, he didn't have an apology to chris rock. less than 24 hours after the slap had seen round the world, we have that. so this is what will smit