days after the election when fox business host maria bartiromo brought up dominion with attorney sidney powell. >> sidney, we talked about the dominion software. i know there were voting irregularities. tell me about that. >> that's to put it mildly. the computer glitches could not and should not have happened at all. that is where the fraud took place, where they were flipping votes in the computer system or adding votes that did not exist. >> sidney powell was never able to show fraud, but she was repeatedly invited back on fox networks as was the president's personal attorney, rudy giuliani. who also wove a false narrative about smartmatic, an election technology company which is now suing giuliani, fox news and others. >> smartmatic is a company that was formed by three venezuelans who were very close to -- very close to the dictator chavez of venezuela. and it was formed in order to fix elections. that's the company that owns dominion. >> does smartmatic own dominion? >> no. we do have a relationship. we are competitors. >> were you associated with the late hugo chavez. >> absolutely not.

, sidney powell then be involved in that meeting in december where giuliani and others are puttinguch as seizing voting machines, at one point wondering if there's anything they could do at the dod in terms of martial law. even the refer toll powell who was instrumental in efforts to try to overturn the election should be noted. >> mike lee tried to build his brand on a constitutional conservative and you're seeing them challenge that. what's interesting many democrats are not invoking january 6th as a contrast in many of these races but here you have it in ray red state like utah. >> the entry ticket in a republican primary. if this were a republican primary different conversation or mcmullin would not be in play. this is part of the legacy of january 6th. we can look at it a couple of different ways. three republicans competitive for house seats who attended trump's january 6th rally and said they had nothing to do with the vice. you have three at the rally who are in play in three different states in wisconsin, ohio and north carolina. again, that's just 20 years ago to think th

we note sidney powell and other trump allies breached the coffee county elections office and copied sensitive data. we don't know when that occurred because on the secretary of state's office was asked, they gave us three different timelines. it's been 21 months. no one has been held criminally accountable. the secretary of state's office failed to pull camera footage that would have confirmed the breach did happen. it took a year and a half to bring gbi ended investigate the claims. -- into investigate the claims. it's about public trust and the secretary of state's office mishandled the investigation. that secretary -- as secretary of state, i would be transparent about what is actually happening. >> would you like this respond, secretaryr raffensperger? sec. raffensperger: i believe there will be a thorough investigation and people who break the law should be held accountable and sent to jail. we found she put her passwords on youtube. we began the investigation and she resigned. we called in the gbi and have an ongoing investigation. people broke the law. they should be investigated, held

we also know that sidney powell and other traumatic reached the coffee county election office and copied sensitive data. we don't know when that occurred because when the secretary of state was asked about it, they gave us three different timelines. it's been 21 months, nobody has been held criminally accountable, the secretary of state's office failed to pull camera footage that would have confirmed the breach did indeed happen, and it took a year and a half to bring gbi into investigate these claims. this is about public trust and the secretary of state's office mishandled the investigation and as secretary of state, i would be transparent with the public about what is actually happening. lisa: would you like to respond to that? sec. raffensperger: i believe that what happened in coffee county would have a thorough investigation and people that broke the law should be held accountable and sent to jail. we found that she put her passwords up on youtube and we began an investigation and subsequently she resigned. we have an ongoing investigation . but like i said, people broke the law, t

four days after sidney powell first discussed dominion with maria bartiromo.heir reporting. >> you gave them a lot of chances to correct their statements. >> they still haven't corrected them. >> so far we know many fox news personalities-s people like sean hannity, tucker carlson, maria bartiromo, have been deposed for questioning in the case. "the new york times" also reported just last week that fox news ceo suzanne scott is expected to be deposed very soon. the trial is expected to start in april. neither side has shown any signs of reaching a settlement. dominion's fight to proclaim the facts about the 2020 election and hold the disseminators of lies accountable is where we begin the hour with some of our favorite reporters and friends. former fbi counterintelligence agent pete strzok is here. also joining us jeremy peters, "new york times" reporter and an msnbc contributor. and our good friend john heilemann's back. host and executive producer of showtime's "the circus." executive editor of "the recount." also an msnbc national affairs analyst in his fre

that gave people like rudy giuliani and sidney powell and john eastman and mike lindell, there was aled whispering into the president's ear, yes, you can overturn this, yes, you lost without fear. his own son-in-law went off to the middle east to work on peace and maybe future business contacts, as well as moving his family to miami. >> i remember seeing mike lindell hanging outside the west wing and thinking this guy is not here to sell pillows. susan, i have to ask you about this anecdote in the book where you write about then chief of staff john kelly, with a quite surprising book that he hopes will help him understand his boss. can you tell us about that? >> that was one of the amazing things when we did this reporting is to see how the testimony about trump is so disturbing and has come from republican officials, from his own appointees. these are the people in the room with donald trump. john kelly, retired four-star marine general, told others that he purchased a book by a couple dozen mental health professionals, "the dangerous case of donald trump" to try to understand the p

to cross village township but a woman who claimed to be under the supervision of trump attorney sidney powellud on a satellite owned by vatican city. in this recorded police interview she said this. >> this is a nonpartisan issue. however if you voted for biden you're an idiot. >> reporter: in february she pleaded guilty to a charge of disturbing the police. these guys wouldn't answer cnn's questions. >> now that you found out about the group behind this and what they were trying to prove, what do you feel about this in connection with national politics? >> i'm sorry that it's happening to people. as far as new clerks go, take all the training you can. they train you about how to handle people in situations like that now. >> i bet you didn't think that would be part of your job. >> i never did. not in this small township. >> reporter: drew griffin, cnn atlanta. >> thank you to drew for that report. >>> the highly anticipated gdp report and jobless numbers are coming out later today so what should we expect? >>> the two men accused of cheating in ohio fishing tournaments facing a different jud

meadows, who was then trump's chief of staff, that show how much lee was pushing trump folks towards sidney powell and towards john eastman, in the end, though, he didn't vote to contest results of the election. do you think that saves him? >> no. i mean, i think the fact they're having this debate and that mcmull han so much ammunition, and that he has receipts of mark meadows phone. mark meadows, should have thrown that phone in the river given how much damage he's doing not to lee but a lot of other people. primary evidence in hearings these days about what happened january 6th, but the clear that mcmullen is really getting a lot of traction. utah is really, it's a very different state. it's not just a typical red or blue state. so i think it's a state in which somebody like an independent candidate like evan mcmullin can actually, can win there. >> you've been around a minute or two, kids like to say, and seen a lot of midterm elections. a lot start to have a feel to them. does this one have a feel to it yet with gas prices inching up americans, latest poll saying economy and inflation are a p

to crossvilleage township by a woman who claimed to be under the supervision of trump attorney sidney powellata stored on a satellite owned by the vatican city. her name is tara jackson. she has not returned our calls. in this recorded police interview she said this. >> this is a nonpartisan issue. however if you voted for biden you are an idiot. >> reporter: in february she pled guilty to reduced charge of disturbing the peace. no one else was charged. these guys wouldn't answer cnn's questions. now that you found out about the group behind this and what they were trying to prove, how do you feel about this in connection with national politics? >> i am sorry that it is happening to people. as far as new clerks go, take all the training you can. because they train you about how to handle people in situations like that now. >> reporter: yeah, but i didn't think you thought that would be part of your job? >> didn't. >> reporter: drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. >>> some new developments today. more fallout in the wake of 2020. sources telling cnn that the former president's lawyers accepted service

donald trump can respond to that by saying, fine, bill barr said one thing, rudy giuliani and sidney powellere telling me, no, you won, i can believe who i choose to believe. but the testimony we just heard, jim, is different, because that is donald trump himself acknowledging, according to those various witnesses,i know that i have lost. so, that's even more powerful evidence, and if i'm at doj looking to follow this up, i would want all of those pieces of testimony line up to shown what's really a criminal state of mind of criminal intent. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. >>> and i mentioned in trump's response to the january 6th committee that he doubled down on false claims about the to 2020 election. cnn's fact checker daniel dale is here to debunk those claims. daniel, take us through it. >> jim, it is october 2022, and former president trump is still repeating election lies that were debunked 21, 22, 23 months ago. it is frankly hard to believe we're still having to do this, but here we are. trump began this letter with a lie that the election was, quote, rigged and stolen. as yo

it's happening to sidney powell. it can happen to many others.hot. who is going to hire you in the future? i'm stunned, for example, that jim trustee signed the cnn complaint. that's a frivolous lawsuit. it will be dismissed which says failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted. his reputation will be shot. who is going to want to hire him. yeah, it really makes no sense. i have to say that christina bobb was careful -- she did not say there's absolutely nothing left, everything has been turned over. she said based on the information provided to me. that is deliberately misleading, but under a supreme court case, deliberately misleading but literally true is not perjury. so it's not perjury. on the other hand, by saying what she said, she opens herself up to be questioned and i assume today's questioning included who told you that information and even if it's your client, you have to reveal it because of that. if it's another lawyer you're working with, they're in trouble for having said that. then you go to them and say how did yo

sidney powell and rudy giuliani. the company seeking 1.3 billion dollars in damages from the trio. and former president donald trump is now going after cnn. but this time in court, trump's suing the network for nearly half a billion dollars claiming it defamed him by using terms like the big lie to refer to the false claims about 2020 voter fraud. the suit alleges cnn is on a slanderous smear campaign for the purpose of defeating him politically. should he run for office? again, cnn has not commented on that lawsuit. meantime, the department of justice is going on the top offense in the fight over the thousands of documents seized by the fbi from trump's mar-a-lago resort. prosecutors are asking for a quick appeal of the ruling that prevents them from examining the files. they say the delays are deterring their investigation. trump's attorneys are pushing back and want to delay another ruling into next year. trump claims he declassified the top secret documents also seized by the fbi. but his attorneys have not repeated those claims in court. all right. let's talk a little bit abou

. >> smith: and even though the antrim report was widely discredited, flynn's lawyer, sidney powell, try to overturn the election results. >> then money is pushed behind that data into the separate social media platforms that say the election was stolen, it has this sort of veneer of respectability or technical a lot of the individuals that were involved with antrim county or other inspections, many of these individuals are directly connected to flynn. >> multiple groups of concerned americans came together because they all observed something incredible in the 2020 general ections. >> smith: phil waldron served under flynn in military intelligence. he worked with the group that put out the report and used it to challenge the election. >> this was included in the forensics report on central lake township in antrim, michigan. >> so you really had a multi-pronged attack on the american public. and it's layered beautifully. >> i don't deny that we've had elections. i deny that we have fair elections. >> smith: in his video response to our reporting, flynn took issue with the term "electi

he knew he was lost, but he was killed by guys like rudy giuliani and sidney powell that they could findurn this, and he began telling the country again and again and again something that he knew and was told that was not true. that somehow the election was stolen. so these emails, and the judges conclusion seem to ratify a determination the committee has already made about this. >> ambassador mcfaul, let's talk about the war in ukraine and putin's most recent move, imposing martial law there. is this a power move or a drastic move, a desperate one? >> well, it's an escalatory move for sure. i think it is desperate. that is a good word. he is declaring martial law over territories he does not control. and at the same time he is declaring a martial law in kherson, one of those regions, they are also evacuating people from kherson, from the city on one side of the river, because they think the ukrainians are coming on a counter offensive. so he's not in control. this is a desperate move. but there's another part of this decree that i think is even more important. he's also calling for part

the federal judge in michigan including nine attorneys including sidney powell described the case as a historic and profound abuse of the judicial process. recently a group of just a wish republican election lawyers issued a report confirming the findings of the court. in the report, it is titled lost, not stolen. these prominent election judges include this, donald trump and his supporters failed to present evidence of fraud or inaccurate results to begin enough to invalidate the results of the 2020 presidential election. on december 11, trumps allies lost a lawsuit in the u.s. supreme court. that he regarded as his last chance at success in the cords. a newly obtained secret service message from that day shows how angry president trump was about the outcome. quote, fyi, potus is best. the supreme court denied his lawsuit. he is livid now. cassidy hutchinson, an aid to the chief of staff, mark meadows was present for that conversation and described it in this way. >> this is a day this up in court rejected that case. as we were walking back, they were walking out of the oval office

the federal judge in michigan, sanctioned nine attorneys, including sidney powell, for making frivolousegations. describing the case as a his direct and profound abuse of the -- a historic and profound abuse of the judicial process. recently a group of election lawyers, formal judges and elected officials issued a report confirming the findings of the corpse. -- of the courts. these prominent republicans analyzed each election challenge and included this. donald trump and his supporters failed to present evidence of fraud or inaccurate results significant enough to and validate -- to invalidate the results of the election. december 11th, has allies lost a lawsuit in the u.s. supreme court, that he regarded as his last chance at success in the courts. he nearly obtained secret service message from that day shows how angry president trump was about the outcome. "just fyi, otis is -- potus is pissed. supreme court denied his lawsuit. he is livid now." kathy hutchison and mark meadows were present for the conversation and escarpment in this way. >> this was the day that the supreme court re

this included sidney powell for making frivolous allegations in an election fraud case. describing the case as a historic and profound abuse of the judicial process. recently, a group of distinguished republican election lawyers issued a report confirming the findings of the chords. in the report entitled loss, not stolen, these prominent republicans concluded this. donald trump and his supporters failed to present evidence of fraud or inaccurate results significant enough to invalidate the results of the 2020 residential election. on december 11, trumps allies lost a lawsuit in the u.s. supreme court that he regarded as his last chance of success in the chords. a newly obtained secret service message shows how angry president trump was about the outcome. just fyi, potus is best. the supreme court denied his lawsuit. he is livid. kathy hutchison was present for that conversation and described in this way. >> this is the day the supreme court had rejected that case. as we were walking away, we crossed paths. the president was fired up about the supreme court decision. the

salvage any bit of repetition and avoid being sort of group in lumped in with the rudy giuliani, sidney powell, a pillow guy, you know, true loonies. the problem with bill barr is little in image rehab tour ir in this article in the atlantic is they talk about that and bill barr tells this heroic story extended, maybe, i don't know what happened behind closed doors. the problem is what bill barr completely and the article completely omits and we can't forget is that for months leading up to the election will barb's one of the biggest cheerleaders for the election fraud conspiracy theory. he was one of the biggest spreaders, perpetrators, amplifiers of the big lie. he did it as attorney general and i'll give you quickly i lay this out, he did an interview with npr where he talked about the massive threat of fraud. by the way i talked before about responsiveness. shortly after trump started tweeting every day of the threat of election front bill barr picks it up. he did this document the threat and npr had to run an article shortly after entitled we allowed the attorney general to tell falsehood

the mar-a-lago documents or something else, but all of the rudy giulianis and mike flynns and sidney powellsn and out of the white house, there are so many of these kind of, you know, bizarre conspiracy-theory-laden folks who are whispering in the president's ear, and we heard today, time and time again, whether it's pat cipollone or other folks in the white house counsel's office, the attorney general, bill barr, all of them telling trump, there is no truth to any of this. and yet, nevertheless, all these folks find a way to get in the former president's ear and whisper these things that he then comes out and says, completely falsely, that there was voting fraud, that it was illegitimate, and again, going on for months prior to january 6th. >> the premeditation, one of the big points. some of these new documents, another big piece of what was introduced by the committee today. someone who played a role in all of this for a very long time, our friend, former congressman and former advisor to the house january 6th committee, riggleman, the author of "the breach." what leaps out at you in term

a federal judge in michigan sanctioned nine attorneys including sidney powell for making frivolous allegations group of distinguished republican election lawyer, former judges and elected officials issued a report confirming the findings of the courts. in their report entitled lost, not stolen, these prominent republicans analyzed each election challenge and concluded this, donald trump and his supporters have failed to present evidence of fraud or inaccurate results significant enough to invalidate the results of the 2020 presidential election. on december 11th trump's allies lost a lawsuit in the u.s. supreme court that he regarded as his last chance at success in the courts. a newly obtained secret service message from that day shows how angry president trump was about the outcome, quote, just fyi, potus is pissed. breaking news, supreme court denied his lawsuit. he is livid now. cassidy hutchinson, an aide to chief of staff mark meadows was present for that conversation and described it in this way. >> this is the day that the supreme court had rejected that case. we were in the white hous