both sides work come november or discuss it with me is the only associate director of the sierra club beyond oil campaign kate thanks so much for coming on tonight and for having me so for starters i guess what's your reaction to this this move by the president this well we're incredibly disappointed with this move by the president but the truth is you don't have to be an environmentalist to dislike the story since pipeline like you say this is going to raise prices in the midwest in thirteen states so this pipeline essentially equates to higher gas prices for americans and that's just the wrong way to be going right so can you break that down a little bit then for for the viewers as to why on earth with this raise gas prices in the u.s. because the way that it's sold optimism not only security create jobs for those people who are building the pipeline but that it's going to make us less reliant on foreign oil sure so what this pipeline does is it's an export pipeline and it's connecting midwestern gas with big export ports down in the gulf of mexico and the idea is to get this market reach the