they were supposed to just come when the war was raging in sierra leone.of intimidation that the rebels used was amputation. one girl was four. it ended up that her grandmother was carrying her and they shot through her. it was a horrific war. they were going to bring them here, a new york doctor was going to donate the limbs. they realized they could not send them back because they had been given so much media attention, for one thing. they had these brand new limbs that would bring attention to them in the camps. they became almost an extended family that lived in staten island for years. >> the war was over what in sierra leone? >> diamonds, basically. there is a lot of control of the diamond mines, and the rebels were seeking to gain power. >> what was the point of cutting off limbs of little kids? >> as far as i can tell, just to intimidate the civilian population. i think people go crazy in war situations sometimes. they would use drugs to take kids and indoctrinate them to become child soldiers and to fight for the cause. they would tell them to go

inthe war was over what' sierra leone? >> diamonds, basically. control of the diamond mines, and the rebels were seeking to gain power. >> what was the point of cutting off limbs of little kids? >> as far as i can tell, it just to intimidate the civilian population. i think people go crazy in more situations sometimes begin in war situations sometimes. they would use drugs to take kids and indoctrinate them to become child soldiers and to fight for the calls. they would tell them to go ask the president to get them new arms. >> let's watch. ♪ ♪ somewhere over the rainbow ♪ there is a land that i heard lullabyin ally ba somewhere over the rainbow the dreams that you dare to dream really do come true >> what happens to these young kids and they come to the united states and are adopted? how do they get along in our society? >> they obviously have to assimilate. they are so grateful. they lived in refugee camps in sierra leone, so they were thrilled just to be able to eat. they would eat really fast because they could not believe that would have thi

. >> before we look at the sierra leone photos, set it up. what year was this?bad with years. it was right after katrina. 2006, it must have been. i had just been to sierra leone and done a story on war amputees who came to d.c. for prosthetic limbs. i had followed this group of mostly children. i am godmother to one now. i had been there on a personal trip with one girl. mortality is an important issue that is under-reported. in sierra leone, one in eight women die in childbirth for avoidable reasons. >> what is that? >> she arrived in a taxi at the hospital, a maternity hospital in freetown. i think that was her aunt who brought her in, and she was just screaming in pain. she eventually died following an emergency c-section at the hospital. she bled to death right in front of me. >> this photo? >> again, is the same hospital. we spent some time in their rural hospitals. we decided it was better to go to the hospitals where the women were coming in seeking help. that was her first and final look at her baby that was born before she died. >> why did they let you

c-span: before we look at the sierra leone photos, said it up. is it, what year was it, why did you do this? >> guest: ziara lenone linus -- it was 2000 -- and so bad with years. it was right after katrina -- c-span: sue 2006? >> guest: 2006 -- it must have been 2006, yes. i had just been to sierra leone. i had done a story on war amputees who came to d.c. for prosthetic limbs and was like a four years of god i followed this group of mostly children, and then actually and godmother to one of the children now who lives in d.c.. and they invited me to go with him on her first pack the qtr to sere early on. so i had been there on a personal trip with her, came back in a week later they asked me to do this story on maternal mortality which is a really important issue and i think it is under reported. i think in sierra leone it's like one and eight women died in childbirth. it's horrendous. and for a lot of avoidable reasons, you know. c-span: what's that? >> guest: that's jamella. she arrived in a taxi at the hospital, maternity hospital in freetown.

wars were stopped by outside military intervention was near cost of all sierra leone liberia. and now libya i mean thank god nato went into libya i mean there would be thousands and thousands of civilian deaths in cities like gaza if the outside world it's simply stood back the way we did in rwanda simply stood back and watched a powerful government slaughter its own citizens so you know i don't much care i am able to be impartial my bias if you will is that civilian suffering civilian death is a bad thing and so with afghanistan i mean i was there in the one nine hundred ninety s. the civil war of the one hundred ninety s. and as bad as things look now in afghanistan it is nothing compared to the ninety's four hundred thousand afghan civilians died in that decade of the ninety's since nato was put it afghanistan thirty fifth highest estimates are thirty thousand civilians have died so you know for me from a humanitarian perspective. as bad as this is it's a huge improvement over what i knew fifteen years ago there so but is it not a doubt in your mind than it that you think t

then president of liberia, never dreamed that he would actually be tried by the special court for sierra leon. so i can't predict the precise way this will unfold. i think we are seeing now increasing numbers of heads of state accused of these kinds of crimes winding up in the dark. >> the two cases you mentioned, they both appeared before the i.c.c. after the troubles in their country were effectively over. bashir of sudan, he's still there. the i.c.c. would like him. he's been charged on various counts. but the fact is that surely it depends on what happens with the conflict in libya, doesn't it? >> well, i think that's a fair point. the other trials, if these were not i.c.c. trials. they were other international courts. but i think the point is that these individuals increasingly in today's world, if accused of the most serious crimes, have a way of finding themselves in the dock. i think if there are arrest warrants issued and this is a judicial process, and up to the judges to weigh the evidence and decide fairly whether or not to issue the warrants, but if they are issued, i think the t

against war do something wrong i want to send a force in there together to stop bosnia like area sierra leone yeah of course everyone's against war so what do you do when there's a war you know what do you do when there's a war in liberia you sit here in united states and watch it unfold and hundred thousand people die or you send in. no the mill is a country's military and stop it and that's what happened and it ended the war so it's like yeah it would be dealt with but sometimes you have to deal with war with war based on what you saw in your experience do you think money question i read here the soldiers didn't talk much about why we're in afghanistan i mean they are in afghanistan because they join because they didn't want to go to afghanistan things that would be done. they were quite psyched to be in combat like they joined the army most of them. they joined the army and they got into the once every thirty airborne a really kind of hard core unit precisely because they wanted to understand what combat was like and so they didn't debate why are we in afghanistan very much it's like. you

going into iraq for the second war british intervention had a pretty good history we went into sierra leone we went into work and and bosnia. those were soft power interventions the produce good results where the use of british military professionalism was successful we went into afghanistan that would be sensible to go in there in two thousand and one it was disaster to go into helmand province in two thousand and six there were only two british soldiers have died in afghanistan in the first five years we were going into helmand the death rate went up to three hundred and fifty six there must be an inquiry into that but it's left us with a legacy that says that we will be very reluctant to use military power again we're very reluctant to go into libya and so very limited. commitment to libya has been we ground troops indeed but i believe that the country has lost its confidence in military intervention but some of those interventions can be beneficial but unfortunately the legacy the record of iraq and helmand province means that it be very difficult to use military intervention beneficial

aggregate of all of these stories through the years the decades the bosnia is the rwanda is liberia sierra leone afghanistan you take them together. is it worth it to have a group of foreign reporters covering the story so the world can know what's happening and possibly intervene possibly do something yes absolutely it's very much like firemen or for like policemen there is a casualty rate but but society is unthinkable without those without those groups i think that's true of journalism as well do you think that those stories are getting to you know the take care in america getting to americans are those messages getting to americans are they number of all when you know you have editors focusing on news that's going to have entertainment value or going to appeal to a large audience. well i you know i think it is affecting decision making i mean i know there's i'm sure there's a swath of americans the civilians who aren't really focused on afghanistan or libya for that matter but let's face it it was probably press coverage of the humanitarian catastrophe in libya that triggered nato involvemen

sponsored war crimes trials for the african nations of rwanda and sierra leone. emma daly, who covered the wars in the former yugoslavia for the british newspaper, "the independent." she's now communications director at human rights watch. ambassador rapp, you've been to serbia five times in the last 15 months. what new can you add to the circumstances of this capture? >> well, it is the serbian operation. they were maintaining surveillance over the extended family. we've been in touch with them. we've been providing them with advice and assistance with the fbi. they've been meeting with us regularly to inform us on their progression which is important. because our assistance to serbia depends upon that full cooperation. but this was a situation of maintaining surveillance and finally getting the signal that this is where we are and being able to move in on it. >> warner: are you saying the fbi was actively assisting the investigation? >> the fbi made two visits to serbia and to provide advice. our federal bureau of investigations actively involved in chasing dow

this isn't liberia or sierra leone with gangs of thugs running around with leaders. zimbabwe, everything happens for a reason. it's highly controlled. it's more fascist and he's been a topic for a very long time and he's a fantastically sophisticated leader in the way that he manipulates people. he has got none of his original comrades from the liberation war that have survived in the cabinet. they've either been fired or fall into disfavor. so everyone around him a post their jobs and they will bring him bad news. in that situation that is how this sort of pathology develops where his world view starts to get more and more remote from the reality around him and so even things like when they have been drowned and we can see that they haven't grown into tears when to be a job we need to get in front of otherwise tens of thousands will lie and none of the ministers will tell that. they say we think it's going to be and then the famine hits. so that's the problem especially as he gets older, too i think. that disconnect of the reality has become greater. >> host: it's i

>> i did a dna test in 2005 and realized i was from sierra leone. you make you feel? >> terrified. >> it sounds like an awesome responsibility. >> representing 6,000 villagers now. i was thinking i would get in and have the african experience and come back and donate basketballs and build some things. now the folklore states i will be a man from another land that will help bring this country back to its original state which was called the athens of africa. that's been my journey the last four years. >> in this book, fans from the show will know you from your work on tv. what will they learn they don't already know? >> me. they'll get the real isaiah washington. that starts in 1972 at the age of 9 talking about a dream that i call a rerun in the book. it seems every time i would step away from the path of my destiny which has been today, something catastrophic happens. >> such as? >> when i thought i would be a football player, my coach had a scandal in texas where i didn't get the letter of interest to go to the school i was supposed to go to. i joi

the ex liberian president, charles taylor, indicted back in 2003 by the court in sierra leone.hir first sitting head of state to be indicted by the court. he's still in office. no plans to turn himself in. and what's interesting, he's actually visited several countries that have signed on to the statute, which means they should have handed him over, they didn't. which is the court's biggest problem, enforcement. >> what is the next step here, assuming an arrest. fnchts they issue a warrant, they can't go get him, they have to ask the libyan authorities to bring gadhafi in. and he is the libyan authority. so you can, you know, guess the likelihood of that happening. in the short term. long term, maybe. >> michael holmes, thank you for breaking it down. >>> you're sounding off on our tack back question. is hyper partisanship driving good candidates out of the presidential larace? hear responses moments away. bus network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience. fro

see jobs leaving the gulf of mexico and they're going to the mediterranean sea, egypt, australia, sierra leon. as we know our favorite pick of late is brazil, is brazil. what we have to do in this body today is we have to put our lives in the lives of the american families and we have to make sure that it is time today, it is time today to do what this body should have done many, many years ago and we have to make sure that we take care of them and we tap into our natural resources that we have in this country. i stand today and rise in support of this rule as well as the underlying bill. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: i yield myself five seconds. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, let's be clear, this bill does nothing, nothing at all to lower fuel costs and everything to increase the profits by big oil companies. i think it shows where the priorities of the republica

had a refugee population in a particular country, so if you have a sudanese living in ugonda say sierra leone, they're have been cases where you see a parent to a child across the border leaving another behind. i am not certain of the role the u.s. plays, but we know that it does happen and it is equally tragic. >> we know some countries in sub-saharan africa you do have >> where you have this hereditary certitude where the practice for example in sudan as i mentioned before to think of the people that were put into the certitude by the khartoum busheir government of the north, and have you gotten into a discussion in regards to customs of country where for example in haiti a person who's very poverty-stricken may turn their child over to a wealthy haitian to simply work as a servant, which is not a abduction, however it's not - either. have you dealt with those issues? i think they call it restivik in haiti. >> yes, sudan and haitian, it's been incredibly pervasive and harmful practices that we see in haiti if the main way we address that is working with the families that find themselves in

refugee population, in a particular country, so if you have sudanese living in uganda, or, say, sierra leone and living elsewhere, there have been cases where you see a parent take a child across the border leaving another parent hundred and certain of the role that the u.s. place there, but we know that it does happen and it is equally tragic there. >> also, we do know that in some countries, sub-saharan africa, you do have some traditions where you have this hereditary servitude and adoption into slavery where the practice, for example, as i mentioned before, the people that were put into into into into the servitude by the cartoon government of the north. have you gotten into discussion with regard to customs of countries where, for example, haiti, a person who is very poverty-stricken may turn their child over to a wealthy haitian to simply work as a servant. which is not abduction. however, it's not nice either. have you dealt with any of those issues? i think they call it -- >> yes, we have in both sudan and in the haitian. it has been an incredibly pervasive and harmful practice. that

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