pi and the national chapter sigma pi fraternity which has had problems on college campuses across thelook at the numbers, i think 40 people have died in hazing incidents in the past ten years on college campuses. and the deaths go on before that. when you listen to what is being done to the chung men, and i can't help but think about the rightful work that is being done on campuses to prevent sexual assault and me too movement and everywhere else on college campuses, posters everywhere with phone numbers to call. where are the phone numbers to call in the posters and the movement to stop this kind of senseless death of young men? >> jonathan: exactly. the reality is the anti-hazing statutes, some of the publicity in the past, the reality is fraternity's are a thing of the past. you put 50, 60, 70, 18-22-year-old boys in a house congregating together and you don't watch them you simply set them over there and say enjoy your own social status, it is a recipe for disaster. one life lost is too much. >> martha: absolutely. this young man according to what i learned about earlier in this c

it was an attempt to use lien six sigma programs.every senior official that i hired had to sign on to that. and we now have, i think we've been over 1000 liens process improvements, programs over the last eight years. and we really created an institute and funded it so we will continue doing that for, you know, hopefully many years to come. >> tell me about the resistance, if any to this? there's obviously, there are state and local officials who take signals from their federal leaders, from their parties who might have ideologies that are in conflict with ever policy are pursuing. everyone embraced evidence- based policymaking in the beginning? >> no, of course not. >> [ laughing ]? there's an orthodoxy that a number of established biases in politics feel threatened, and by, you know an open board, nonpartisan and once the election was over we didn't care whether people were republicans or democrats, we tried to hire a, the most diverse but also the most talented cabinet and senior staff that we possibly could. and we look at soluti

government to a certain extent and that was kind of at the root of everything was an attempt to get six sigmae improvement systems in every agency of state government so every cabinet every senior official i hired had to sign on to that. and we now have people who have done over 1000 lean process improvement programs over the last eight years. i think really created an institute and funded it so we will continue doing that for, you know hopefully many years to come.? tell me about the resistance, if any to this. there's obviously, there are state and local officials take their signal from their federal leaders, from the parties who might have ideologies that are in conflict with whatever policy are pursuing. everyone embraced evidence- based policymaking in the first place? >> no [ laughing ] of course not. as an orthodox that a number of established bias is in politics feel threatened. and by, you know and open board, nonpartisan, and when the election was over we didn't care whether people were republicans or democrats we tried to hire a, the most liberal first within the most talented cabi

have a sixth sigma from villanova university. and my understanding was this was going to be a fair and open process in order to have the best talent available in that position. and out of 80 some-odd people that applied for that position, they picked seven for the first interview. i was not part of that first seven. of that first seven, only five showed up. they did not go back and get two others. they went with five. they had a deidentifiable process with the supplemental questionnaire where anything that identified you was redacted. so when you evaluated the supplemental questionnaire, who evaluated it? the human resources at the city and county of san francisco and specifically the san francisco public utilities commission were subverted, and they turned everything on its head. and so i'm here, where i should be complimenting you, i'm here having a big question mark about what happened and how did it happen. that supplemental questionnaire, i had an 11-page response. i teach project management, so my detailed response was fact

questions large environmental concerns and scientist just released a report that says they have five sigmael of certainty, one in a million now that they are wrong about the data regarding claimant and changing claimant and how much impact we are having. >> tucker: okay, but hold on, but there is no certainty to fix it so let's not pretend a consensus on that because there isn't. but back up a second. you said it is empowering to have fewer kids, but it's more empowering to work for some corporation to serve markets. you are aware that it is the ugliest kind of propaganda that you are spewing? are you being paid to say that? be >> tucker: to work as a and have children, really? >> ethan: i'm pro entrepreneurs so women being in charge of their own life, choosing to start a business can make qr pro entrepreneur and i'm for entrepreneur. >> tucker: i'm actually four children. what i'm really for his kids and families and loving relationships from people who are related. i'm the oldest unit in humanity, the family, that is when i'm poor but when i'm not foretelling women you are somehow libera

sigma health care gaining 4.5%.sted fiscal 2020 visawriting -- underlying $50 million to $60 million. this one is the biggest laggard, extending friday's drop after reporting results last week. sophie kamaruddin on the markets. a new u.s. government shutdown appears to be looming. negotiations broke down over capitol hill and republicans and democrats aren't vindicating. this is the prospect of a deal before friday's midnight deadline. let's get to ros krasny here for us to lawmakers went into the weekend pretty off beat, but now looking down the barrel. quite a bit of a surprise given saturday afternoon into took aning the talks sudden turn and went off the ground a little bit as far as we can tell. we never know what happens in these very close discussions, but the focus all of a sudden turns from the amount of money democrats and religions want to -- and republicans want to spend on border security to the attention of immigration and customs funded in the next budget. that turns on a democratic effort to focus on

scientists and others, physicists, whoever, people who work at places like renaissance technologies or too sigmahat have enormous amounts of money >> isn't that what those ads in the super bowl were about? the algos have been right. oil goes up and then the stock market goes up, sojust set the issue that i have is that there are a lot of companies that are going up as part of etfs, the etf issue again. let's not get too cocky. if oil goes down, expect the market to go down, led by amazon, a big damper on friday i think amazon is good, but right now amazon is being wrapped up into the notion of that it paid too much to move into india a lot of negative notes about that. >> india is still small. but has a component of its potential growth, people would focus on. >> notice retail, retail was down on friday with the belief that if amazon didn't blow away retail, what is going to be at brick and mortar one of the most overlooked i would say and read wrong conference calls last week by simon property group and they are very, very smart. they're talking about malls doing fabulously and rates are a lot