whatever you get a letter silber [unintelligible] is complicated and expend a lot of money on that. -- you spend a lot of money on that. business is not so good and then you get the settlement, you get the fee, and you have to fix the restroom and everything. it has been a lot of money. i would suggest that -- i am happy and glad to the supervisor and everybody to have that meeting to bring more attention to this issue and to help small business. this is helpful. i know that so many more businesses, this is why this meeting is important and to help small business people. i think to city hall to do something like a lawyer, from the lawyer to help this kind of blessed. the small-business -- you spend the lawyer fee, is difficult. if city hall can provide a lawyer to of this lawsuit, it would be great and i am glad. i am glad david chiu is making a law to help these kinds of things. supervisor mar: thank you. commissioner mccarthy. thank you for being here. commissioner mccarthy: the testimony did an amazing job of laying out what the issues are and what small businesses have to do. i th