are you not concerned for silicon valley? for yourself, i take 450 million or whatever it is, too and you're not concerned that we'll end up perpetuating an existing problem in the valley? >> think two things. i think they may see some things that we don't in the businesses and about what the growth plans are and if you're looking for a five-year plan they see something that justifies the valuation because they have no justification for overpaying otherwise. i think that's very important. i think for the companies themselves there is value in not being forced into the public market because it's really hard to constantly focus meeting analyst expectations and at the same time innovate and you're talking about companies that plow a lot of money into rnd and develop new products and as a growing company that's hard to do when you have to meet expectations. >> softbank is coming into curious businesses and it brought arm, the chipmaker, and has an interesting sprint and fanatics, which sells sports memorabilia and what not, and y

silicon valley is using h. one b. visas to crowd out american minorities so max you know that congress created h. one b. visa in one nine hundred ninety so right before clinton under reagan. under reagan bush one so however it was the first five years they accepted about fifty thousand they only applied for like fifty thousand visas from overseas workers. under clinton it exploded so there was like nine hundred thousand and eighty one b. workers at the moment so here they point out that silicon valley is highly publicized campaign to hire minorities and women has failed black and hispanic employees combined represent just five percent of the tech workforce and women are outnumbered three to one according to a new study from the software firm at last am yet when at last in surveyed over one thousand four hundred tech workers ninety four percent of them deemed their industry inclusive so this industry that is now controlling so much of our cultural space in the new space what they deem to be legitimate or right or ok wi

the silicon valley workforce is channeling through stanford university stanford university is the citadel of intelligent tech working code developing math genius folks and that is the pool in which they draw from so if there's diversity is the goal then stanford university in the university system needs to radically open up their admissions policies to get a more demographically representative admissions for the united states once you're out of stanford in the year and go to the job force it's too late the sort of modernized application for the job force so if you want to make that change you've got to dig deeper you know under previous all the oil barons and the robber barrons they realize that they had to create libraries and universities and things like that and open things up and. the civil rights movement was in large part put forward by the elites in america who also started the american revolution by the way it wasn't a bunch of un scrubbed unemployed dude's it was middle class guys like thomas jefferson what the study found was that in fact the u.s. graduates far more

there is a lot of unconscious bias in silicon valley.re seven percent female venture capitalist and when you have an idea resonating with women it is difficult to get it across to a 50 or 60-year-old white man. not only are there gender issues, there are diversity issues across the board. >> maria: that is a good point. do you find the talent that you need in today's environment? we talk about the efforts that president trump has been making in terms of trade and immigration changes. can you find the people that you need to work? >> no. there are never enough great people for us to hire and that is either because of h1b problem and so many great companies that are looking to hire the same kinds of people and from a size stand point we haven't educated them. >> there are over 4000 people started in silicon. the thought that we could hire everybody out there is not possible. >> gender discrimination plays a role as well. for female oriented brand with a female ceo and 70% female workforce, it's hard to at engineers because 95% of them are

it's happening now in silicon valley.mming the silicon valley tech company in a new class action lawsuit saying google "segregates women into lower paying jobs and stive els their careers." this as google has joined other silicon valley companies to speak out against the trump administration on policies for things like dreamers, climate change, border security and national security. this as women at tech companies say discrimination against them is ramp aunt in silicon valley. google parent company alphabet closing the day in the red and let's bring in washington times contributor eric shiffer, and we are joined good to see you both. great to be with you liz. >> liz: so google criticizes the administration and all those things meantime, the allegation is that underpays its workers, female workers. what do you say? >> well, you know, when you want to empower government to do many things then you have to watch out that government will be used by your female workers to sell you for possible pay discrepanc ies and it's an imp

people in silicon valley -- in silicon valley topmost about machine learning. -- talk most about machinerning. susan: we are using it today. example oflity is an a technology that we think and be powerful in the future, but i would say it is still early for virtual reality. how can you have an experience of video where you are watching and fully immersive in that video experience? that is a new experience, a new art. it is hard to do. there is a platform, content, how can you figure out how to build content for the platform when there are not that many platforms out there yet? we have tried to make this really accessible. with this thing made out of cardboard. you can put your phone into the cardboard and have a br experience. -- a vr experience. we're hoping people all over will experience that. charlie: was your favorite youtube star? someone who creates in youtube videos and has a large number of followers. either their video has a large number of user subscribers. 10 million subscribers. that would be a successful youtube star. teenagers, ao study when out and talk to teenagers -- we

[nats] men and women work side by side in silicon valley...but not all is equal.sot super: rita renner/clean tech consultant ]"i would say at this point in my career i'm probably ninety cents to the dollar versus a man." rita renner went into consulting after a 32 year career in silicon valley, mostly around the clean- tech industry. she said her eye opening moment was the time she had terminate one of her male subordinates. [sot]"you discover through exit paperwork that they make more money than you. and that person is a man who has the same or fewer responsibilities than you. it's pr d no clude that that's gender discrimination." she says pay equity is part of a larger problem: the lack of diversity in silicon valley. it's a workforce that s largely male and white. one female ceo calls it a "bro" culture... that makes it hard for women to fit in... especially in the engineering or executive tracks. [sot]"what i hear often is they feel excluded." ari horie is the ceo and founder of the women's startup lab...a silicon valley tech incubator that seeks to prepare wo

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now we know the silicon valley is in the heart of california which is also very democratic and liberal so a lot of the liberal media elite like these guys and so i don't mind their monopolies perhaps so we're going to look at what has happened since hillary clinton lost the election she lost to a reality t.v. star she was humiliated by losing to it reality t.v. star all of our media elite in the likes of m s n b c it's c.n.n. have demanded that they're good friends in silicon valley they're good friends who run facebook they're good nice guys who run google and all their friends that they hang out with that they start censoring the speech of people that they don't like i encountered it twice and one day just a little stupid link i provided on my facebook page from boing boing facebook threatened to block my page claiming that boeing boeing link was fake news let's all pray for hillary of course. i said i let's pray for hillary because i believe this whole sharod of fake news is about protecting hillary making here feel better so as you see i got shut down from facebook and then

charlie: is silicon valley were -- waking up to this reality?: there has been more discussion. not asty numbers are strong as we would like them to be. there's been increased awareness about doing more to support women in the tech field. charlie: and avoid discrimination? susan: and the issues we have had. i put out a piece in "vanity fair." i recommended three things. first, it needs to come from the top. it needs to be the leader of the tech company that says we need to make this a diverse environment, we will work on it as a management team. teamswe need to give the the right resources to execute on that. but you also need to enable the current diverse teams to be successful. the worst thing is, we have some diversity, but they are not happy. how can you make sure you understand what their issues are? , the one woman in the group, we want you to organize all the women's events. that is not fair. -- ay, everyone can be in mentor and advocate in some way. i have had amazing mentors at google. behind the scenes they have helped me in a number of

selina: is this prevalent across silicon valley?e singular, high-profile cases. >> it happened at uber, we think. it certainly happened in sofi. look at these venture capital firms making these big investments in these companies, and they want a return on investment. you do that by growing and becoming more efficient. sadly one of the consequences is , that people's rights get walked upon, like yulia. she suffered in silence. now, here is one person bravely coming forward and sharing her experience. i suspect there are thousands of other women out there who experienced what yulia experienced. it's our hope that her courage will inspire others to come forward and hopefully these tech companies will be better places to work because of people like her. selina: you have an interesting background. you spent time in new york as an employment lawyer, as well as in san francisco, representing people who had worked in wall street. are you seeing comparisons between what had happened on wall street, culture wise, and what's now happening in s

jobs in silicon valley since 1998. including a stint at venture capital firm kleiner perkins that triggered the gender bias lawsuit. >> what was the percentage of women in venture cap talt when you were there. >> i believe it was about six percent. >> and what is it now? >> i think it's gone down, i think it's gone down to maybe five percent. less than 1 percent are black or latin. >> do you think you were sort of suppressing feelings you were having at the time, or the sense that were you getting that there was systemic discrimination against you as a woman, perhaps you as a minority. >> there are a lot of, like a thousand cuts in little small things that would make it very hard for a woman to be successful. so women were asked to take notes at meetings and men were not. women were asked to babysit. women were asked to do some of the men yal tasks of organizing events and planning conferences that the men were not. so when it came time to invest, which was the work that you would get recognized and promoted for. >> an

he's one of silicon valley's most respected and savviest investors. in 2002 he co-founded linkedin the social networking site for career-minded professionals. in june microsoft announced plans to acquire linkedin for more than $26 billion. the deal is expected to close later this year. hoffman's apartment greylock the venture capital firm has backed some of tech's biggest successes over the last decade including bets on facebook, drop box and airbnb. let me turn to your company linkedin. you sold it to microsoft or you planned a deal to sell it to microsoft for 26 billion i think is the figure. how long ago did you form this company. >> so almost 15 years. you know late 2002 is when we start working on it. it's been a labor of love. like all labor of love. >> rose: at what place was facebook at that time. >> facebook in 2002 hadn't been started yet. >> rose: had not been founded. >> had not been founded yet. >> rose: he was not at harvard -- >> he either just got to harvard or just getting to harvard. >> rose: you started linkedin before facebook was

she's a well-known executive. >> she is. >> in silicon valley speaks up often when it comes to women'ses she play into this story in your reporting at all? >> no. she didn't i think there are a lot of people at the company. some of the behavior we're talking about happened in 2012, so when the company was only between 5 and 30 people so joanne wasn't there at that time >> katie, i wonder, not to be -- you've got to be careful drawing too many lines between companies, but after uber and after some of the episodes we've heard about in private equity in the valley, do you think this is largely about lack of internal controls, or is this sort of a sort of mindset that they actively pushed this, aggressive behavior that ends up spilling into other areas of life >> well, i think that there's a lack of internal control there's a lack of external control because we're in a weird situation where the board that's supposed to oversee the company and that's supposed to care mostly about the outcome for shareholders is also the same exact group of people, the cho hort that funded the ceo and the fo

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link to financiers on wall street and the high tech community in silicon valley and hollywood.ide, and seeing the manufacturing base of this country be exported overseas, to see a rising middle class in asia at the expense of working class people in this country, so populism -- what this movement and what donald trump has been able to to galvanize is jacksonian populism, which is concerned about the elite of washington dc. very anti-elite. if they were smart, we would have a different situation. inextricably16 are linked. early 2013started in in 2014 because i saw this guy a populist,, anti-establishment party and i said that is a canary in the mine shaft. ukip, we will understand the evolution of the party. charlie: what about marine le pen in france, loss? steve: when you look around the world, the ways of going his populism and nationalism. the question before us in the united states in europe is will it be a left-wing socialist populism or a center-right populism. winger,e pen is a right but economically, she is virtually as socialist. peopleough to galvanize -- it is diffe

he's been to my house for dinner with startups here in silicon valley.ve taught mba courses together in france. we've been in front of the press about a digital france and how france could be a startup nation for the future. we said the next biggest thing in europe would be france two and a half years ago. it would become the startup nation. it has. so what i would hope that you're about might surprise many americans is i think we need to become the startup nation again across our entire country. so i think watching what is occurring in israel, watching what's occurring in france and india, there are many things we can also focus on here in the states in terms of a startup nation because that's where all the job creation will occur. that's where the income increases will be for american households. that's my personal passion as well, liz. liz: well, they just shook hands, and they've been thanking everybody and the president has shown admiration going to france to be with emmanuel macron -- a banker, i should add. so he is indeed quite the businessman. w

feels more and more like silicon valley is being pulled into you got to learn to love content, got torn to love advertising, and you've got to treat it as important and effective. and for me, that's the lesson from this that's going to carry. >> before we say good-bye, five of us talking. how many of us check facebook more than, say, twice a month? >> absolutely. >> yes >> i'm not on facebook >> twitter addict. >> jason >> i'm a twitter addict, but i have to check facebook once every day or two, yeah no choice. >> you have to, yeah, in a way >> jason, henry, thanks, guys. >> thank you >> great to be here. >>> we do want your reaction to another major hack, this time a government agency targeted am eamon javers joins us. >> yes, that's right, detailing this extensively for the first time, here's what the s.e.c. said about this hack they said the incident first was detected back in 2016, but they said it wasn't until august of 2017 that the s.e.c. learned that it may have provided the basis for illicit gain through trading. the vulnerability the s.e.c. said was related to the edgar soft

there is a lot of unconscious bias in silicon valley.even percent female venture capitalist and when you have an idea resonating with women it is difficult to get it across to a 50 or 60-year-old white man. not only are there gender issues, there are diversity issues across the board. >> maria: that is a good point. do you find the talent that you need in today's environment? we talk about the efforts that president trump has been making in terms of trade and immigration changes. can you find the people that you need to work? >> no. there are never enough great people for us to hire and that is either because of h1b problem and so many great companies that are looking to hire the same kinds of people and from a size stand point we haven't educated them. >> there are over 4000 people started in silicon. the thought that we could hire everybody out there is not possible. >> gender discrimination plays a role as well. for female oriented brand with a female ceo and 70% female workforce, it's hard to at engineers because 95% of them are male

the show look at how female entrepreneurs are saying enough is enough to make male investors in silicone valley actually play right where it comes to sexual harassment so don't go anywhere america's lawyer starts now. don siegelman was sworn in as governor of alabama in january nine hundred ninety nine in for the start of his term his republican opponents set out to take him down by any means necessary siegelman a democrat in a very red state drew the ire of republicans in alabama so they turned to dirty tricks master call rove the architect behind george w. bush's entire presidency roll over the republican operatives came up with a plan to have siegelman investigated for alleged bribery after he pointed a campaign donor named richard scrushy to a position of a state hospital board and it was a position that screw she had already held under several republican governors from the very beginning it was obvious that these charges would never stick they couldn't stick but rove and his associates managed to find just the right prosecutor just the right judge and even a jury that eventually convicted

silicon valley the heart of the tech venture capital is seen was shaken to its core with more than a dozen women coming out accusing male investors of sexually harassing them the alledged allegations go from one woman receiving unwanted suggestive text messages late in the night another being pushed to a corner for a kiss and one being invited to a hotel room the women were seeking funding pure and simple they were seeking funding from the investors hoping to launch their own tech businesses and as a result two top venture capitalist investors had resigned joining me now to talk about this is elizabeth again a successful entrepreneur self and a former partner at five hundred startups. the most recent developments with this case in silicon valley is the announcement by a california state senator who plans to introduce a bill s b two twenty four can you talk about the machine what's your take on this b. two twenty four. sure so mentally i have not read this bill i don't know the details but you know i think just in general on one hand i do applaud that people are taking this serious th

fit for a wealthy silicon valley tech or executive. the community will be home to 22 residents or families. each with a 20 egger plot of land. price tag? $5million. building a dream or will cost another 5 million or more. >> my buyer is probably living about 90 miles north of here. on a full time basis in silicon valley. the bay area. wants a weekend get away in nature. >> the idea is to get there valley's most successful and their young families to disconnect from technology and escape for the weekend. >> apparently that is what -- punty that convinced me to do what we are doing here. i saw the value of doing it. i started spending time here. i pitched a tent myself and stayed here for a few nights and realized how much better i thought and was able to focus on the bigger picture instead of just always checking my phone. here is november, 2016. >> reporter: he invited dozens to do the same. here is an example of one of the 20-acre lots up for sale where a buyer could build a home and respectful of the nature around it. this is three m

yeah right i mean many of these innovative silicon valley companies are trying to disrupt industries and that usually means they don't play by the rules from the very start and they different their founders think differently and they have to otherwise they wouldn't sound disruptive companies think about every need for example the platform has been facing multiple regulatory issues and in various cities because it is hard to define a completely new business model that is clashing with the traditional one take the taxi industry and risk case and hotels in every in these case another interesting shift that has to be made in order to stay in business as being faced by facebook right now they have evolved to promise social network to an opinion forming medium so they have to play by new rules so the disrupt is being disrupted sophie now moving on september is usually seen as a bit of a cost money for investors now or at the end i was a big. not cursed at all that any out for kember twenty seventeen was different that out jones actually gained around four hundred points or passing the reco

. >> has anyone here ever seen the hbo show silicon valley? okay. it's pretty hilarious. but it's very, very stereotyped. there's a hacker house, there's, like, the computer genius, the coder guy, richard hendrix, who's the ceo, founder of pied piper, the tech company. so i spent a week in silicon valley in menlo park at a accelerator called the women's start-up lab. i spent a week at a hacker house with eight female founders who are technology founders living in a hacker house, and the really interesting thing i learned about, you know, researching this book was that a female entrepreneurs in tech don't look like richard hendrix, they don't act like the programmer type that you see on tv or hear about in the media. these women were from all over the country. one woman in particular, her name was carrie, and she's from santa fe, new mexico. she's got two little kids at home. she said this is the first time i've been able to actually breathe and not have my kids all over me. she's starting a company which is a baby rental equipment company which she calls the airbnb of bab

million or more.>> my buyer is probably living 90 miles north of here on a full-time basis in silicon valley, the bay area. they won a weekend getaway in nature.>> he said the idea is to get the valley's most successful and the young families to disconnect from technology and escape for the weekend.>> personally, that is what convinced me to do that we are doing here in monterey. i saw the value and spent time and pinched a tent -- pitched a tent and stayed here for a tonight and realized how much better i thought and was able to focus on the bigger picture instead of always checking my phone.>> the gathering event in november.>> he invited top architects. he stayed in the your -- yurt.>> a lot for sour a buyer can bite a luxurious room that is respectful of the nature around him.>> this is three miles away and a 10 million -- minute drive from monterey and a 15 minute drive from carmel.>> there is two rules, don't take down any trees and use renewable energy in the design of your home.>> the design is up to the buyer. here is samples of what the sustainable homes can look like. the communit

that's dpre that's great for the silicon valley. dunbar ton bridge, 84. king up a lot of volume, 92 off the castro valley area. over here, the top of your screen, still only 34 minutes to the bay bridge toll plaza where you have the back up. that's good. 580 and 880. >> monday morning. >> that's okay. >> a lot of people are looking ahead to the weekend. >> if you had a great weekend and enjoyed the weekend, we are going to see more of that for the start of the week. it gets warmer for start of the weekends. looking at saturday's forecast, isn't that really nice? it will be the first weekend in fall. 84 degree for the inland area. 79 by the bay and the coast at 74 degrees. on sunday, warmer. you may be making pool plans for the interior valleys up to 87 degrees. 81 degrees for the bay. the coast nice and comfortable. if you can believe it, we are looking at the sierra and a chance of snow showers over the next several days. yes, for the elevation above 7,000 feet. there will be a chance of snow on thursday as well as friday. a beautiful sight to see, then t

>> well, the silicon valley mantra of disruption is so out of touch with the public moment. is not to disrupt. the point is to enable if you think about technology, what it's really good for is letting people do things that were previously impossible and this is no less true with today's technology than it was with the technologies of the industrial revolution. it's job is to make us all wealthier. and yet we've had this narrative which emphasizes we'll disrupt, we'll create this enormous value for the entrepreneur and not enough that we will creates value for society. >> we see that with the bodega business and the backlash against this, uber and autonomous driving coming to that perhaps but what about facebook, what about google and some of the ad controversies, how does that fit into your vision of how silicon valley should be looking at the future differently >> well, we have to understand that these are vast algorithmic systems, increasingly using more and more a.i but what people don't understand about these systems is that they do exactly what we tell them to do they

the bigger issue is silicon valley is on washington's radar. google for business practices silicon valley does not like that attention. several records were set. look out for the fed. the feds may raise interest rates. it will be interesting to see what donald trump says about interest rate hikes. it does affect the market. he's been proud of the stock market. we'll see. >> the markets have had a good run. >> really good. >>> happening today, people in florida starting to return to a normal life, as much as they can. now, nearly two weeks after hurricane irma hit the state. today, many students in miami return to school for the first time. the schools in florida keys and areas hit hardest will stay closed for another week. >> my brother lives in ft. lauderdale. they got power, but no wi-fi. i said, hey, you are back to the '80s. back to the coloring books and cross word puzzles. >> wow. okay. we are definitely in our technology and having to attract what's going on locally and all the hurricane activity that we have seen out there. we are going

my guest tonight made headline when she sued her employer at silicon valley a venture capital firm fordiscrimination. she told her side of the story in her new memoir, reset, my life for inclusion and change. , ellen pao. welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me. >> trevor: congratulations on the book. if the story's as powerful mostly because it's happening right now in a really big way in silicon valley. a lot of people first heard your name when your case rose to prominence suing a venture cant firm for -- capital firm for sex isn't. what was the issue for you suing sexism some people struggle proving exists. >> a lot of people who gone through it say you get attacked personally, you spend a lot of money on it, professionally it's hard to get hired again. for me i tried every other avenue. i talked to people, complained. i had written a memo, i had tried with another woman to try to get things to change and ill wasn't changing. i said if they don't change it's just going to happen to more and more people. for me it felt like i was in a position where financially i could affor

silicon valley's k through 12 enrollment rate will decline by about 3% between 2015 and 2023.ere is why, researchers say the number of women who are of childbearing age has not grown and will keep pace with -- or will not keep pace with other populations as they continue to grow. >>> we all remember the collapsed spillway at the orville dam but now a six month long investigation has uncovered even more safety issues. this time with the dam itself. >> senior investigator steven sock has more. >> we reviewed 20 years worth of documents and safety records and found consistent issues that raise serious safety concerns surrounding orville dam itself, everything from a 15 foot long crack in gate 8 of the flood control structure to cracking trunnion rods that maneuver those flood control gates themselves to other issues that state officials insist are not an immediate cause for concern, but raise serious questions for some safety engineers we spoke to. >> when i show you that, what does that say to you as an engineer? >> it tells me we've got a problem and it tells me that we're luck

this is a very political hunt for people in silicon valley. sure what the government is trying to get out of facebook and these big tech giants. there are serious questions here, not only about facebook's operations as a private company and what they are allowed to do. they are allowed to sell ads to whoever they want. they are providing a service. whether the government should be regulating batch. and there is serious questions about their clients, so to speak, and whether the government should be regulating what private people say in a private business on the internet. stew on the facebook statement, we should point out says "the vast majority of ads run by these accounts didn't specifically reference the u.s. presidential election. voting, or a particular candidate. the ads appeared to focus on amplifying divisive social and political messages across the ideological spectrum." that was the facebook statement. >> i think is the reporting showed, there are people saying this is a new moment of accountability for facebook. how is it going to u

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