gold and siller indepented both today. biggest rallies over past three months.s by the way dropped to a one-month low. risk-off was the trade today. david: by the way, sandy saw that coming when gold was spiking, she said be careful. a lot of people see it coming back down again. tim, let me go to you to talk about oil quickly. how much longer than it last if demand is drying up? >> that's a story and it's a supply situation too. i think you see some of that especially with the concern over syria. you saw some of the nearby supply concerns. again, when the fed continues to do what they're doing they will continue greasing the wheels for commodity prices such as oil. so, you know, aside from supply, that is a concern. david: tim, i have to ask behind you, as you were trying to speak of course the bells were going off but there seemed to be a little more wild than usual. quadruple-witching hour. we have the market going down toward the end of the day. people are closing out positions pretty quick before the weekend begins, right? >> yeah. this one was really the,