open and silverbridge and what just as came forward a lot of witnesses came forward. and i suppose the significance of the meeting was that you had families with evidence and information but you also had witnesses the events and the significance of this being that there were so many connections so many permutations so many leads to follow obviously these had never been followed by official bodies are for people in authority even little it's been hugely influential moderate than we've lived thirsts you know this is something we need to do we need to take this forward and you know what happened in my home in my local was killed in the incident is connected to what happened on the road is connected the happened over just across the other kind the what happened the kneeler part that they was partial in the sense that if we were in the room we appointed 2 yet either a witness to something the how to lead a piece of evidence that connected to another one the connected turn and then what really was unfolding was the sense that there was this gang the security force people ar