would say is if you believe technology is a public good that's going to be underproduced, there's a sim beowes ib beyoes is, i think government is at its best when it cultivates technology and gets out of the way. number two is important because sometimes getting out of the way means not just the government getting out of the way. but the government playing a role to make sure that incumbents also do not stand in the way of new inventions and new innovation that going to grow technology and develop it even further. zbld sim. >> i want to see if i can ground new things that have been happen sog we get less abstract. a lot of it comes from conversations i've had with mark. you've often talked about the way in which there's been kind of a regulatory turn in i.p. enforcement online recently. sopa, pipa, government-mandated or encouraged efforts to have isps monitor the content of their subscribers' accounts and the whole debate over network neutrality. obviously reflects the same. what do you make of all of that. can we draw some conclusions. can we get government to regulate what we want and not