sima hurst, of course, talking about the fact that joe biden spoke about it openly. victoria newland spoke about it openly that pipelines get rid of them if need be, and that's what he's saying. and they did just that. and regarding he gave us seems to be give us a little hands about the pipeline industries. and also in that interview says it doesn't necessarily, his source doesn't necessarily have to be american. let's not forget that nato countries were involved in that even n o 2 companies knew that this was the implant, they just couldn't talk about it. now, marina, you know, about north stream, i know about nurturing. we've been hearing about it for years, covering it here for years. but many people don't really know the full story. the background. can you tell us a little bit more about the background of the north stream projects and the revelations and how they've been handled since they've come out? of course, north seem gas pipelines were used to deliver a cheap russian gas to germany and see europe in general. and germany was receiving a substantial amount. now, nordstrom t