>> guest: georges simenon--he is a very famous writer of mysteries. he did all the "maigret" stories. he was a very, very prolific writer. he wrote a novel in 11 days. i said earlier that he would go to the doctor, he'd have himself checked out to be sure he was in good shape, and then he would not see or speak to anyone for that 11-day period. but i was going to say, in the messy desk vs. the neat desk i've always found that it's the person with the really neat desk, like simenon, when you go in, they say, `oh, god,' you know, `you can't photograph me. let me clean this up first.' it's the executive who has one piece of paper who says, `oh god, this is a mess,' where the people with real mess and clutter--they wouldn't dare clean it up, because if they did, they would never find anything again as long as they lived. c-span: jean piaget... >> guest: jean piaget. c-span: where did you take this? >> guest: in geneva, switzerland. what was wonderful about his desk was that you couldn't see his desk. there was one small area that was just big enough to ac