on behalf of some of the analysts so what could hong kong do well so far it hasn't really gone the simitis route for example it they did introduce about $2000000000.00 us dollars worth of stimulus back in august but it could have you know it's got a lot more at its disposal to do but the main thing is it needs to find some kind of solution to this and until it really finds a solution its hands are tied in terms of getting the economy growing very very strongly i find it interesting that at the same time the u.s. and china confound a solution either well that's right and we've had various upsets in that today as well be about where where they're going to to meet to sign a phase one do we just had a tweet just before we came on from donald trump saying about how they will find a way a place to sign this and so maybe there will be something in size but you know with the we've said so many times at this point you know that is the back and forth with the u.s. china trade talks couldn't thank you very much for the analysis well the race is on to develop electric cars and drive us technologies an