simon bolivar buckner uh jr. the grand nephew or great grandson, but the son of the general grant, this friend of general grant's. i'm sure most of you think from time to time about the connections between the civil war and the second world war. there are constantly in writing about marshall in front of me. we have to remind ourselves that when the generation of marshall and macarthur and those a little younger, eisenhower, mark clark, and so on, when they were school boys in their teens, they were still being taught by men who had fought at gettysburg and chancellorsville, and shilo, relatively young men. they were much closer to that experience than we are for exam pull to vietnam. the impress of the civil war on that generation as you know was very, very powerful. affect. on the evening of the first and terrible day of shiloh, to most of us, the most tragic of all the civil war battles, a battle fought by gangs and groups and ragged cohorts of 18-year-olds from wisconsin and mississippi. and alabama and indian