if simon calder is struggling to get his money back, what are we going to do?! keep trying. g to be getting back to normality any time soon, simon. we have still got hundreds of flight bans in place, so it's a matter unfortunately, as it has been pretty much throughout this crisis, of wait and see. what i foresee happening is that we will be asked, for example, to have some kind of vaccination certificate. this is my old vaccination certificate, it hasn't seen much action recently but it will possibly include something to show, when there is a working vaccine against covid—i9, that you have had that vaccination and, more to the point, that you have perhaps had the infection and that you are now immune, but of course that is all against a whole backdrop of what the health authorities regard as giving you immunity. all right, cheers simon. hopefully i will get to see you soon in person once this is all over. take care, mate. alright, now it is time for us to jump across the world to japan to meet another member of the travel show family, it's carmen! hi, carmen! hi adi, how are

if simon calder is struggling to get his money back, what are we going to do?! well, keep trying. going to be getting back to normality any time soon then, simon. you've still got hundreds of flight bans in place, so it's a matter, unfortunately, as it has been pretty much throughout this crisis, of wait and see. what i foresee happening is that we will be asked, for example, to have some kind of vaccination certificate. this is my old vaccination certificate, it hasn't seen much action recently, but it will possibly include something to show, when there is a working vaccine against covid—i9, that you have had that vaccination and, more to the point, that you have perhaps had the infection and that you are now immune, but of course that is all against a whole backdrop of what the health authorities regard as giving you immunity. alright, cheers, simon. hopefully i will get to see you soon in person once this is all over. take care, mate. alright, now it is time for us to jump across the world to japan to meet another member of the travel show family, carmen! hi, carmen! hi adi, how

a global guru simon calder is across town and hopefully he can bring some clarity to a very confusing you? i am well and happy, but they have never been busier! withjust thousands of travel show viewers getting in touch, saying help, what are my getting in touch, saying help, what are ' getting in touch, saying help, what are my rights? what can i do? what are my rights? what can i do? what are people's rights when it comes to getting money back with cancelled holidays? under european passenger rates rules and also the rules which pertain in the united states, airlines, if they do not operate yourflight, airlines, if they do not operate your flight, have to give you a full refund. however, there have been cases right across europe and the us and the world of airlines saying, we can't refund you, we will give you a credit note, in other words, you are allowed to travel on that airline sometime in the next six months, year, sometime in the next six months, yea r, two yea rs, sometime in the next six months, year, two years, but your money is tied up with them. if you are covered by cons

let's find out what our global guru simon calder makes of the situation. hi, simon., it's going to be a long time before most of us are flying again, isn't it? that all depends who you talk to, actually. because you have, for example, in the middle of may, lufthansa suddenly coming out and saying, right, we're going to be flying a really, quite significant network from the first ofjune. you've had obviously, ryanair, the biggest budget airline in europe saying that they would be pretty much doing the same from the start ofjuly. and, it's a question of which airlines are flying where and most crucially of course, as we've been hearing, what sort of restrictions are in place, notjust for the airlines but crucially, for the passengers. i want to clear up a couple of things that people have said. number one, by getting rid of the middle seat on the plane, you are making it safer. and number two, actually flying on a plane is safer because the air is circulated so we shouldn't worry about that anyway. what do you say to that? if you take the middle seat out of an aircraft

let's find out what our global guru simon calder makes of the situation. hi, simon.lying again, isn't it? that all depends who you talk to, actually. because you have, for example, the middle of may, lufthansa suddenly came out and saying, right, we're going to be flying a really, quite significant network from ijune. you've had obviously, ryanair, the biggest budget airline in europe saying that they would be pretty much doing the same from the start ofjuly. and, it's a question of which airlines are flying where and most crucially of course, as we been hearing, what sort of restrictions are in place, notjust for the airlines but crucially, for their passengers. what do you think to the airlines and airports ideas the airlines' and airports' ideas of social distancing? how effective can those measures be? fundamentally of course aviation and social distancing are utterly incompatible, and so what the airlines and the airports really want to do is to reassure passengers. now people are saying, "but i want total safety" — that is clearly an impossibility in any form o

joining me now is the independent travel expert simon calder. it, is spain saying... basically, forget it? no, in fa ct basically, forget it? no, in fact actually, david, quite the opposite. what spain is saying is that we are nearing the end of what they call a state of alarm due to expire in nine days' time. and because they are in this phase of what they call deescalation, they have decided that everybody coming in from abroad into spain must self—isolate for two weeks because they do not wish to have any sudden surge of cases. but once the state of alarm is lifted, and yes it may be extended by a week or two. then they will be able to move toward something like a actual proper summer toward something like a actual proper summer season. toward something like a actual proper summer season. of course, spain, one of the giants of european tourism alongside france. they are desperate for visitors and the money that they bring, they create so much employment. therefore they are basically looking at restarting operations at scale injuly, assuming t

we're joined now by simon calder, travel editor at the independent. y that aviation and social distancing do not work. flying is all about cramming as many people as you safely ca n cramming as many people as you safely can into a confined space and leaving them there for at least an hour. and the blunt reality is that as project restart gets under way, there is going to be an awful lot of people who see pictures like that and think, well, i simply don't want anything to do with flying right now, thank you very much. and whatever the airlines, the airports do, it seems to be all about making us do, it seems to be all about making us feel better rather than actually doing much to prevent the spread of coronavirus. people on that flight talked about the queues happening as normal, without people standing two metres away. i suppose the question is, how often is that kind of thing happening? not very often at the moment simply because there's so few people flying. aviation has fallen to perhaps 5% of what it was just three months ago. and most flights typi

thank you very much, simon calder.t was just one of those things — more came along. now under one roof there are three girls, nine boys, and two long—suffering parents. oh, it's fine. it's easier than normality. yeah. how come? less running around to do. it's kind ofjust like the start of the school holidays where you just kind of change from mayhem to calm, but we're stuck in this kind of groundhog day circle of the first few days of summer holidays. the family live in an eight—bedroom house and are self isolating. lockdown has unlocked some revelations. with this staying at home malarkey we're having to, i think, get to know each other more. so, i've said before, more of them are quite more intelligent than i assumed, because i'm having to talk to them more — for a start. i was like, "oh, 0k, you're like that." the focus is on hobbies, especially gaming. well, collectively we all play games on the computer. we actually built a new computer out of an old one just so the kids could use it and we all play together like

well, we can discuss this more now with the travel editor of the independent, simon calder. the move, whatever the restrictions, because it is the end of ramadan as we can. indeed it is, this is tragic news that we are hearing. this was a journey travelling from lahore. it was a journey of just travelling from lahore. it was a journey ofjust under two hours and the aircraft was just about a mile short of the airport in karachi. it came down in a populated area, i'm sorry to say, but now the airbus a320 aircraft is seem to have been a fairly routine flight. there are simply of course no indications of what may have possibly caused the accident. pakistan doesn't have the greatest aviation records. u nfortu nately we saw greatest aviation records. unfortunately we saw crashes in both 2014 and 2016, but obviously our hearts go out to everybody who has loved ones aboard this flight and no doubt we will find out about this and ensuring hours. yes, we'll be speaking to a correspondent there shortly. a horrible news forfriends and family on board. let us talk about the currency and

we can speak now to the broadcaster and the independent‘s travel editor, simon calder — he was one of what were they interested in, what were you telling them? they were wanting to learn some lessons from the way that this terrible event has spread across the world, and in particular they wanted to know about why people whose holidays have been cancelled have not very simply been given their money back. quite straightforward, you are a consumer, you straightforward, you are a consumer, y°u pay straightforward, you are a consumer, you pay hundreds, thousands of pounds months in advance, the hollow doesn't happen, it is nobody‘s fault, but —— the holiday doesn't happen, they want to know where your money is. but also looking at the future of travel and also touching very much on the green agenda, and what travel is going to look like after the coronavirus pandemic, and whether we might actually have a gentler impact on the planet, rather than the very serious damage which travel has been doing for so long. and we have heard from airlines over the last few weeks. we are hearing today fro

travel expert simon calder has been trying to explain how it might work.the uk will fill in a form saying where they are going to self—isolate, it will have to be in a private dwelling, they will be very, very closely restricted in what they can do, there will be spot checks to make sure that they are inside that dwelling, and after two weeks, if they are not displaying symptoms, then they will be allowed out tojoin the symptoms, then they will be allowed out to join the rest of the general population. but it is the gaps that have simply baffled so much of the airline and the travel industry. bearin airline and the travel industry. bear in mind that london is the world capital of aviation, normally there's 150 world capital of aviation, normally there's150 million people plus flying in and out every year. that has dwindled enormously but, of course, many airlines are interested in flying people here. however, there is an enormous loophole. mostly because it does not apply, according to the prime minister, to railand according to the prime minister, to rail

that speak to the independent‘s travel editor, simon calder.the uk. what does it mean for summer holidays? well, it just adds one more test to the hurdles that people have two cross in order to get a foreign holiday this year. the first one is, can you get to a uk airport or in the seaport? secondly, because the foreign office lifted the advice against all but essential travel, is there a company prepared to take you, crucially, with the destination company you, crucially, with the destination co m pa ny let you, crucially, with the destination company let you in and a new one, would you be able to tolerate the quarantine rules that the government looks like it will be introducing later this month? but as you say, it applies only to airline passengers. so immediately, anyone who does want to ta ke so immediately, anyone who does want to take a trip abroad will think, i can go by train or by eurotunnel or ferry, because that way i won't need to self—isolate when i come back. that is as far as you understand it. you get to the uk, then you have t

let's find out what our global guru simon calder makes of the situation. hi, simon.lying again, isn't it? that all depends who you talk to, actually. because you have, for example, the middle of may, lufthansa suddenly came out and saying, right, we're going to be flying a really, quite significant network from 1june. you've had obviously, ryanair, the biggest budget airline in europe saying that they would be pretty much doing the same from the start ofjuly. and, it's a question of which airlines are flying where and most crucially of course, as we been hearing, what sort of restrictions are in place, notjust 00:26:20,802 --> 2147483051:49:55,115 for the airlines but crucially, 2147483051:49:55,115 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 for the passengers. people are saying i want total safety, that is impossible in any form of transport. by what they are doing is putting on measures such as test of your temperature and before you get on the aircraft, wearing face coverings if not exactly surgical masks throughout your journey through the airport and on the aircraft, and then mak

as simon calder explains.ecked upon departure and you'll be wearing a mask through most of the journey. ultimately, though, social distancing and passenger aviation are mutually exclusive, and anybody, like me, who is desperate to fly, will have to accept some degree of risk. simon's frustration shed their —— shared by afairfew, i frustration shed their —— shared by a fairfew, i think. cameras in the immigrations hall of terminal 2 will use facial recognition tech to carry out thermal screening. if it works, it could be installed elsewhere in the airport as well. things that put l place

let's speak to the independent‘s travel editor, simon calder. good to see you.half pay for the rest of the financial year, although he will still be rather better paid than the average ryanair employee. however, it is british airways, their pilots, their cabin crew, their ground staff who are really suffering right now. the airline wants to cut 29% of its workforce. that amounts to 12,000 people. and it appeared in a letter i saw last night that british airways had sent to the trade unions that the base at gatwick airport which has been served by british airways since the airline was founded in 1974, well, it closed at the moment and it may never reopen. and for the many thousands of aviation professionals that is just absolutely shocking news. what sort of help our governments around the world offering to the aviation industry? in europe, and this is something michael 0'leary of ryanair is very exercised about, they are actually, well he calls them enormous bungs to aviation companies. there are billions of euros going towards european airlines, which ryanair s