[laughter] jacob: on my side was a very elegant british journalist named simon jenkins who told me he poor thingbe a very to criticize an american president in his own country, and i thought, ok, i am out here on my own, and karl rove, true to form, argued the proposition not just the george w. bush was not the worst president in the past hundred years, but he was in fact the best president of all time. bill kristol took an attack and said, george bush may not have been a good president, but come on, he was not the worst, hoover, carver, neck said, and they actually won the vote -- nixon, and they actually won the vote. thinkk that, when we about this whole question, first of all, we have to make knowledge -- acknowledged the parlor game, but it is a fun parlor game, listing the best in the worst, and you can do the same thing about baseball players. part of the reason it has to be a parlor game and does not go beyond that, as you are making comparisons that are not really, they are sort of absurd in a way. how do you compare harding and the mexican war. i do think when people play it