welcome back to the kaiser report imax keyser time now to turn to simon rose of save our saviors a bit like save the whales yeah i mean maybe save is where we close to extinction the way things are going i think so you know it's interesting ecology and finance they should actually approach finance like ecology because the markets are being in talks of five with toxic bonds and toxic policies and greenpeace should open a branch on wall street i've been saying that for years anyway so i mean you've brought in a fascinating study here from william f. four x. president of the federal reserve bank of atlanta produced this report tell us about it well everybody everybody's been saying that low interest rates all the way to to produce growth at least not everybody but those people who think the way to get food is more borrowing but they he steve actually calculated what would happen if the people used to get their income still had it and he said the low interest rates are costing the u.s. economy and i'm you will three hundred seventy one billion dollars in spending three million jobs on two

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>> rose: charlie, underwriting by the simons foundation coming up. the charlie rose brain series is about the most exciting scientific journey of our time, understanding the brain. the series is made possible by a grant from the simons foundation, their mission is to advance the frontiers of research in the basic sciences and mathematics. >> funding for charlie rose was provided by the following. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> tonight we continue to exploring our brain with the conversation about pain. pain serves a very important function for us to survive, it teaches us what to avoid and lets us know when to seek medical help. at the same time, though it can create tremendous suffering. st. augustine once said the greatest evil is physical pain, 100 million americans live with it every day would yo would wouo doubt agree, pain knows no boundaries, regardless of age and race, beyond the physical symptoms the experience of chronic pain often leads to feelings of isolation and hop