simon young simon good morning how could this have gone on for so long undetected brown there are many on sista that first of all if just one statistic this study found that in almost two thirds of cases of abuse by priests that were investigated by the state just as authorities the charges were dropped so that's a very high proportion the question is why well a lot of people say that the real problem here is the hierarchical structure of the catholic church that means that priests have a lot of power and often members of the catholic church you've been reluctant to challenge them and a significant number of those are key issues the study has also found were people who held office senior positions within the church another point is that in many of these cases there's little real evidence it's one person's word against another and the study is also found that in many cases documents relating to these cases have disappeared perhaps they've been destroyed by the perpetrators themselves or other people came to protect the reputation of the church so while there have been prosecutions probably haven't been enough and it's very difficult to bring people to justice within this organization of the catholic church ok victims groups are not alone in wanting to see justice for many of these cases could the publication of this report later today lead to the prosecution of some priests who assaulted children and some of the bishops even and high ranking church officials that apparently covered all of this up well i think it will lead to prosecutions eventually but perhaps not directly this is an anonymized study cover. cases going back well into the past in some cases the incidents alleged happened before the second world war so what needs to happen now is what the justice minister has been calling for namely for the church authorities to work together with the state or thorax is to find out what happened bring people to justice and make sure it never happens again ok that'll mean delivering up the documents simon the revelations of child sex abuse in catholic diocese is literally around the world has led many catholics to question or face a reporter found that both german churchgoers and priests have been shocked by the scope of the crimes. it's getting ready for sunday mass it used to be the highlight of this week but the catholic priest feels different now the catholic church is caught up in a major sexual abuse scandal and father worries. sometimes i wonder what people really think about me how they view my work as a priest do this sometimes think i wonder if everything is all right with him by the. revelations that more than three and a half thousand children fell victim to clergy have caused shock and outrage among germans everywhere the parishioners here are no exception. as a human been deeply shocked that the church has struck through some of the rock for decades from my point of view the guilty really must be hunted down not only in the church long but also under the criminal law. and

fire before its publication joining me for more in the studio is our political correspondent simon young simon good morning how could this have gone on for so long undetected brown there are many aunts as to that first of all if i may just one statistic this study found that in almost two thirds of cases of abuse by priests that were investigated by the state just as authorities the charges were dropped so that's a very high proportion the question is why well a lot of people say that the real problem here is the hierarchical structure of the catholic church that means that priests have a lot of power and often members of the catholic church have been reluctant to challenge them and a significant number of those are keys to this study has also found were people who held office senior positions within the church another point is that in many of these cases there's little real evidence it's one person's word against another and the study is also found that in many cases documents relating to these cases have disappeared perhaps they've been destroyed by the perpetrators themselves or other people kee

the clock ticking for all america let's talk about that with political correspondent simon young good morning simon germany's biggest selling delhi newspaper build site on the saying this morning that asking rather whether on a macro can still govern can she without the support of her own party well there's no doubt this is easy a huge blow to angela medical's leadership focus was a man who stood at her side since the beginning of chance of the ship and really boasted it we often refer to his role as chief whip that is to say sort of her in force in parliament the man responsible for making sure that her side at least voted the right way either by persuasion or occasionally by sort of gentle application of the thumbscrews and now he's been moved to saw it that we can see clearly can she still govern yes for now i think is the arms of the new man has said that he's just as ready to work with her closely as he's pretty says the days but clearly she going forward she's weakened and she faces a conference of her own cd policy in december now off to yesterday's vote it looks rather less likely than it d

even before its publication joining us now in the studio our political correspondent simon young good morning simon the german justice minister has already come out saying that this investigation is long overdue and that this is just the tip of the iceberg that's right justice minister katz have enough has urged the church to be she said take responsibility for decades of concealment cover ups and denials of pretty strong words there from her she also called on the roman catholic church to work with state prosecutors to bring every known case to justice and take steps to prevent more child abuse in the future so it's possible i would say even likely that we are going to see criminal prosecutions as a result of the information that's come to light ok does that mean we could see investigations on the criminal level getting underway like we've seen in the us and like we've seen in australia already not only against priests but potentially against bishops and archbishops as well yeah i think so germany's independent process commissioner for child sex abuse issues has recommended that state authorities

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