and so moans that, simone sanders said, that she advised him against doing it. i can understand that. it is a dicey move. but let me tell you, when you have lost three primaries, and this is the last one before super tuesday, sometimes you have to make the right decision for the right reasons and sometimes it works. and so this works. i think joe biden did what he wanted to do. and i think that adding my voice to those who are asking may have helped a little bit. >> the situation is so much more clear tonight because you did that and because president biden made that public pledge. we get to deal with not messy a list as we might be dealing with if it was a wide open situation. i know you have a favorite in this situation. you can see the point of going with judge brown jackson, confirmed by this same senate a year ago. you've got three republican senators who have already voted for her. lindsey graham voted to move her nomination out of committee. and it's a tide committee, as you know. equal representation of democrats and republicans on the judiciary committe

joining us now, i am delighted to say, is the simone sanders, former chief spokesperson -- simon also just signed on to host a new show here on msnbc, which is everything at msnbc over the moon. miss sanders, it is such a pleasure to have you here and it is such a pleasure that you are joining msnbc. i am so grateful for you. >> thank you, rachel, i'm happy to be here. you put the tee as some people call it, right out there at the top of the show. i like the lead up today. >> let me ask you if the account in that book is, broadly, correct. did you and other advisers to president biden think that that was not the right move when he made that pledge at that debate in south carolina? >> i will note, a number of the things in that book are not true, but that is true. there was a lot of debate in the lead up to that debate in south carolina, in february, about when then candidate should do. there is never question about if the commitment was real. so much of the commitment that the print -- about making sure that his running mate would be a woman. that is a commitment that joe biden himsel

still with us, simone sanders and susan del percio, simone, question to you.en, why do you think he came so late to the voting rights battle? to publicly opposing the filibuster. he did a great speech in atlanta few weeks ago. but what was the thinking inside the white house in 2021? why put off the voting rights struggle and go for infrastructure in build back better first. we lost a lot of time, didn't we? >> i think the president was actually very frank and clear with folks about his thinking there. he did a town hall earlier in the year, in 2021. where he was asked this very question. and the president basically said, he had two legislative packages, at that point it was one big package. it was bipartisan infrastructure deal, it was broken up by -- in the build back better agenda, he wanted to get those done. in the next legislative fight he would take on would be voting rights. votes can debate and argue about whether that was the best strategy. in terms of publicly, the president himself, publicly coming out on those issues. he said why? he said he did n

joining us now, i am delighted to say, is simone sanders, former chief spokesperson for vice president harris, former senior adviser of president biden's presidential campaign and has a new she at msnbc which has everybody at msnbc over the moon, ms. sanders it is such a pleasure to have you here and suchit a pleasure that you are joining us msnbc, so grateful for that. >> thank you, rachel. happy to be here. and i mean you put the t as some people would call it, right out there at the top of the show. so i love it. tacy great. >> let me ask you, if the account in that book is broadly correct, did you and other advisers to president biden think that that was not the right move, when he made that pledge at that debate, on that debate stage in south carolina? >> well, i will say a number of things in the book is not true but thatth is in fact true, the was lots of debate leading up to thatde debate in south carolinan february about what then candidate biden should do.fe there was never a question about if the commitment was real. similar to the commitment that the president, then candida

we want to welcome tonight, simone sanders, former chief spokesperson for vice president harris. she'll be hosting an upcoming show here on msnbc and our streaming channel. tim miller, a contributor, welcome to both of you. simone, welcome to the family. it will be fun working with you on a regular basis. i think it's fair to say this may be the most meaning of the mlk jr. holiday since the holiday existed, because it's the first time since this holiday existed that we are in an active and current fight for voting rights, the very stuff martin luther king was fighting for while he was alive. >> thank you for having me tonight, ali, and i'm so excited to be here with you and with tim. i love tim, i'm a fan. can't wait to hear what he has to say. look, i think you are right, this is one of the more consequential marked mlk days in our recent history. i would argue that, and i think reverend sharpton has been here throughout the day to talk about his history throughout the years as somebody who studied dr. king and the coordinating committee. look, it's important for people to under

still with us simone still with, us samantha understand -- sanders in susan del so moan, percio. question question to you, why did joe to you, biden, do you think, why do you think he came so late to the voting rights battle? to publicly oppose the filibuster? he did this great speech in atlanta atlant early in 2021 when he where he was us this very question. asked this fake the president basically said, he had two legislative packages at that point. it was one big package. it was an infrastructure deal, that was broken up bipartisan infrastructure deal, in the build back better agenda. any wanted to get those done. in the next legislative fight he would take on would be voting rights. votes can debate and argue whether that was the best strategy. in terms of publicly the president himself, publicly coming out on those issues. he said why. he said he didn't think he'd be able to get the support of all of the senators, and members of congress that he needed. if he started with the voting rights first, that was in first is thinking. hide say is 2020. now the reality is, yes the vot

departures before him our communications director ashley at tian and senior advisor chief spokesman simone sanders struggling with harris' latest approval number at 32% in the usa today poll. here is tweeting yesterday, "because at the bipartisan infrastructure law, america is moving again." that is what infrastructure is all about, getting people moving. the tweet was sent as hundreds of drivers were stranded in northern virginia on interstate 95. 95. some calling the vice president's tweet "tone-deaf" as people were stuck in the freezing cold. it took virginia senator tim kaine nearly 27 hours to travel from richmond to his office on capitol hill. >> there were periods of five or six hours where we were basically just in the middle of the night stopped in the middle of the interstate not moving. >> harris has taken heat for not addressing the border crisis. texas congressman said that he has moved on, noting harris was tasked with the job and doesn't appear very interested in it. >> i want to be helpful to the vice president, but like any other conversation, you have to have two people to have a

we want to welcome tonight simone sanders, former chief spokes person to vice president harris.will be hosting a show here on cbs nbc. the choice on peacock. and tim miller, contributor to the bulwark. -- welcome to both you, good evening. simone, welcome to the nbc family. going to be fun to be with you on a regular basis. simone, i think it is fair to say that this may be the most meaningful mlk junior holiday since the holiday has existed. because it is the first time since this holiday has existed, that we are in an active and current fight for voting rights. the very stuff that martin luther king was fighting for when he was alive. >> thank you for having me tonight ali and i am so excited to be here and with him. tim i, am a fan. can't wait to hear what he has to say. i think you are right, this is one of the more consequential mlk days and our recent history. i would argue that, and i think that ref sharpton has been all throughout the network throughout today that has talked about this history all throughout the last couple years. as somebody who studied under dr. king.

today, i had the privilege of welcoming simone sanders. she'll be hosting a show on msnbc and on peacock. welcome to the family. first, i want to hear all about this move. i made a similar transition and it's weird in the earliest days, first, tell me about the speech. it feels like many, many weeks and months in the making. >> many, many weeks and months in the making. it's no coincidence i would argue that the president and vice president are traveling to atlanta to the late congressman jon lewis' district to give this speech today or this pair of speeches and i have been watching coverage on the network today, reading local news and much has been made about the activists and organizations who are skipping out on the president and vice president's remarks and i would note that president of the naacp has an interesting twitter thread folks should look at. and this speech, as you noted, this day isn't really about the activists who have decided not to attend for various reasons. this is more so a culmination if you will of the legacy of th

of her interview i with carl charlemagne the god because of what was going on at the end, and simone sanderspt in the interview. but if you watch the whole thing, she was really on point in her message and was very clear, and charlemagne at the end was quite praise-worthy of vice president harris, and it was definitely her trying to put her own flag in the ground and say, hey, this is who i am and this is what i believe in and this is what this administration should be focused on. just what do you make of all this? >> well, i mean, i think vice presidents are always in a tough spot, and kamala harris is in a particularly tough spot. you know, being the number two in any organization is kind of hard. you're a step away from being the number one, but you kind of have to keep your head down and stay loyal to the top person. in this case it's especially hard for her because we don't know -- i'm sorry, if president biden is going to run for re-election in three years. he's not the youngest person in the world -- dagen: right. >> he said he's going to run, but if he doesn't, then, you know, does s

political action group inspired by former presidential candidate senator bernie sanders, mickey, it's great to see you, simon. great to see you as well. let me just ask you both and start with no mickey . i mean, at the beginning, i'm going to show you a poll here of, of the president's approval rating gallop has been monitoring this on an annual basis. in january 2021. joe biden was at 57 percent of the country is pretty good number. but now it's fallen one year in to 40 percent. what has happened from your perspective? i enter this, this is often happens when you're coming out of a disaster often created by the other party, the republican party, the same, you know, same things happen historically with that being said, we're still in the middle of, of this economic crisis. and there are, it's not that the democrats can't come to terms and get this deal, pass the b b. b is that 2 democrats are completely out of line with the party. basically, citing with republican senator cinema was greeted on the floor of the senate shaking hands with republicans. nothing can show who you are more than that. so i think the