simone schlindwein. and gÉrard prunier.station, george kazolias, a new york times profile titled the gluten easily -- the golden elites and they profile paul kagamÉ and ask him to define himself. he says some of the names i accept and some are not fair. god created me in a strange way. gÉrard prunier, paul kagame you have known him for a long time. you met him years ago. to a lot of people, and animated figure. >> he is. especially to the people who fought alongside him during the war. even before the war. basically, he was a ugandan in many ways. >> when did you first meet him? >> i met him during the genocide. in the north. because i had been one of the few white people who went there during the war. two years ago, during the fighting, i had the opportunity to go there. the turquoise problem, let's say. >> when the french stepped in and work used by rpf of harboring those who committed the genocide? >> that was a little bit different because we were not harboring anybody. the main purpose of the mission and i was there wi