simpson's attorney ignoring questions about simpson's criminal exposure. instead he blasted the house lawmakers who subpoenae subpoenn to appear before home. >> this committee would make senator joe mccarthy proud. like senator mccarthy, this committee has largely conducted its business through secret confidential interviews and depositions, binding witnesses and their counsels to silence while the members walk outside to all of you, the media, and the public and selectively leak from those interviews to tell you what they want you to hear. lou: there is great irony in his attorney's comments. our first guest tonight to discuss the legal jeopardy simpson may be facing because of his statement to congress about his work on the steele dossier and work with the justice department it seems, congressman jim diswror dan serving on the judiciary and overnight committees. it's great to have you with us. >> thank you, lou. lou: i should point out you're cofounder of the house freedom caucus. i've got to ask you as you listen to glen simpson's attorney, what ever we

simpson, will you take our questions? after the session which lasted about 45 minutes, glenn simpson did not speak to reporters, but his attorney joshua leavy had a lengthy statement. he said the fact that republicans in the house forced him to come here to comply with the subpoena and take the fifth was just more evidence he said of why this is a political exercise and not a serious inquiry. he said it was designed to really help the president and a as a counsel investigation. >> this committee would make senator joseph mccarthy proud. like senator mccarthy, this committee has largely conducted its business through secret confidential interviews and depositions, binding witnesses and their counsel's to silence while the members walk outside to all of you, the media and the public and selectively leak from those interviews to tell you what they want you to hear. >> republicans had a number of questions about the dossier and how glenn simpson worked with the justice department official bruce ohr to use him as a back channe

better known to fans as lisa simpson. >> i have been on the simpsons more than half my life. i am 54. i have been on the simpson's for 30+ years. >> over the years the simpson's have accurately predicted many things that have happened in real life. including in 2000. when the shows dead said donaldson would be elected to the nation's highest office. however the show's executive proder to remind people. they also have an idea of trumps obsesses. >> why don'. the president after trump is lisa. >> as you know we haven't had to quite a budget crunch from president trump. it was how lisa b as president?>> couldn't be worse.>> i mean that's great. >> 100 % better. i feel like she is so levelheaded. >> yes i am proud to be america's first straight female president. >> as usual the show will have numerous guest stars the cds this season including rupaul. he brings mrs. march to a whole new world. he was the best tupperware salespeople are drag queens. and so marge thinks he is a drag queen. >> you can check out the simpson sunday night at eight. in la paul chambers fox to news. >> an

they say simpson is facing legal jeopardy. in one episode he told the senate panel last year he did meet with bruce or until after the election. but the e-mails show that it was as early as august 2016. as you know, simpson used or as a back channel to get russia information to the bureau after the fbi fired the british spy who compiled the dossier for simpson. >> lou: thank you. great reporting. joining us tonight, attorney and republican national committee woman for the great state of california. thank you for being with us. you have heard katherine astonishing report on what is going on. we are learning more every day about andrew mccabe. the tension between he and rosenstein, the one who ultimately did appoint the special counsel. it looks like it was predicated on the interest of andrew mccabe to damages president. his political motivations are starting to be revealed. >> absolutely. clearly we have learned he is part of hard left people at the fbi. he was executing a plan. rosenstein came on the scene. it's very interest

let me ask you first, if you had glenn simpson in front of you, what would you ask them?> i would ask him about the inconsistencies which bruce ohr ohr's emails have demonstrated. that is, which you first start meeting, when did you learn about the dossier, who paid for it, questions like that. but we are not going to get answers to those questions. we are told he's going to take the fifth which if i were representing him, and i don't like to comment on how all the lawyers act, i would do the same thing. i would advise him to take the fifth because it is enshrined in our constitution and now that he sees the inconsistencies, why should he subject himself to prosecution or to perjury? be what i don't know if you heard catherine herridge's report, but the ideas that clint simpson testifying before the senate intel committee and said one thing about whether he first had contact with bruce ohr about the dossier and then bruce ohr's email told a totally different story. why does that matter? >> it matters substantially because if he asked those questions and gives inconsistent

first rod rosenstein and now we have glenn simpson. >> that's right glenn simpson will plead the fifthather than testify to congress. his firm was paid by the clinton campaign and the dnc for so-called room on the dossier. question the motives saying the goal of this committee is to discredit and otherwise damage witnesses. last year simpson told another house panel that he first met with a group after the 2016 election. that contradicts his own emails that shows contact earlier. as you know, ohr became a back channel for the does yea after christopher steele was fired. a reveal by fox news of congressional testimony court records and otherfl related documents indicates at least five sources brought the dossier to the fbi's attention before and after election day. earlier this year, former fbi director james comey seemed vegas about the does yea and what he knew about its political origins. >> the steele dossier comes out sometime early july. when did you personally learn about the memos and the does yea? >> sometime in the fall. i don't remember exactly. when. >> you are talking fall.

simpson, why are you taking the fifth? mr. simpson, are you facing legal or criminal exposure? mr.y is there a discrepancy between your earlier testimony and that of justice department official bruce ohr? mr. simpson what was on the memory stick thaw fav justice department official bruce ohr in late 2016? mr. simpson, will you take our questions? melissa: joining me jason chaffetz, former house oversight committee member and fox news contributor. those are good questions and probably ones catherine put together they would want to ask. what do you think is on the memory stick? >> something, very, very important because glenn simpson testified previously under oath. for him to now plead the fifth would lead to conclude maybe his testimony hasn't been consistent. at the key, at heart of this, melissa is the timeline of the department of justice laid out a timeline. you had james baker, chief counsel, others come testify and maybe paint a picture that is a little bit different and i'm not talking about being off by one or two dates but a significant gap in data and information that the

weathering a hailstorm from safe ground.but young mum fiona simpson was not so lucky.e was left with bruises all over her body ...and a nightmare story to tell.fiona simpson, mother: "i didn't realise the danger of what hail could do."the 23 year thought she could ride out in the storm in her car near kingaroy, with her 4 month old daughter clara and her grandmother.fiona simpson: "it just got heavier and heavier and heavier, and next thing i know the back window blows out."the driver side window also blew out...glass and hail flying everywhere and her baby screamingfiona simpson: "so i jumped in the backseat and just covered her with my body...hoping for it to pass and just got heavier."and they were still being hit and they needed more protection.fiona simpson: "the hail was coming in and i put her on the floor that's was the only place hail hitting it was coming in sideways."in the end she was rewarded for her efforts... baby clara suffered only a few scratches ...while mum and her grandmother suffered heavy bruising and cuts and spent the night in hospitalfiona sim

we now have a situation where glenn simpson won't testify.stein won't testify. >> yes. >> sean: congress doing their job of oversight has been obstructed the entire way. you wait years and still don't get documents and they never told the court and fisa about the politicallor jirns meaning clints clinton bot and paid for all of. this you are exactly right there. is a pattern here. we should compel glenn simpson. cock to congress and assert his privilege. he shouldn't have to just phone it in. he should come there. they are trying to run out the clock. they actually want the democrats to win. if the democrats win, they are never going to be called in wants from of congress and never get the answers for the fern people. that's the goal. irs targets conservatives she takes the fifth. brian pga sets up clinton's email system and email server he takes the fifth in front of congress and now glenn simpson the guy hired by the clinton campaign who went out and hired christopher steele to put together the fake news dossier, he has taken the fifth. i k

simpson?> prior to the session this morning, simpson's legal team issued a statement to reporters saying that by forcing him to appear this morning, even though the committee knew he would take the fifth, they said it's another example about how this is really political exercise designed to help the president and not a serious inquiry. it was not accepted by mark meadows who spoke to reporters on the day in. >> the day of reckoning is upon us. he is losing his voice suddenly. if he claims the fifth it shows that potentially a crime was committed. then the question becomes what crime did he commit where he is trying to protect himself? >> what we know through our reporting, there is a conflict between glenn simpson's earlier testimony to another house panel about his contacts with justice department official bruce ohr. that matters because he was used by simpson and christopher steele as the back channel to get the dossier to the f.b.i. before and after the election, bill. >> bill: thank you, c

we now have a situation where glenn simpson won't testify.testify. >> yes. >> sean: congress doing their job of oversight has been obstructed the entire way. you wait years and still don't get documents and they never told the court and fisa about the politicallor jirns meaning clints clinton bot and paid for all of. this you are exactly right there. is a pattern here. we should compel glenn simpson. cock to congress and assert his privilege. he shouldn't have to just phone it in. he should come there. they are trying to run out the clock. they actually want the democrats to win. if the democrats win, they are never going to be called in wants from of congress and never get the answers for the fern people. that's the goal. irs targets conservatives she takes the fifth. brian pga sets up clinton's email system and email server he takes the fifth in front of congress and now glenn simpson the guy hired by the clinton campaign who went out and hired christopher steele to put together the fake news dossier, he has taken the fifth. i know i'm tire

today, simpson took the fifth. and, why is there is a discrepancy between your earlier testimony and that of justice official bruce ohr? what was on the memories deck. mr. simpson, will you take our questions? was any part of the dossier ever verified? >> house republicans also have called for nellie ohr, that's bruce ohr's wife, to testify on friday. and she worked for fusion gps but now, she could be a no-show. so why don't you show up to something like this? is there an inherent idea that you don't have to answer questions but the american public has the right to know? >> i don't know what's going on in that story. in the 2016 election ever die? >> not if you lost. >> they are not stumped stopping and, that's what glenn simpson has said. devon nunez did the same thing where he threatened to hold him in there and he came voluntarily. and glenn simpson's lawyer said he had been nakedly partisan and was all over tv. >> a lot of people ignore people and hallways. >> answer them in front of anyone. >> i've been known

mister simpson? aree you facing legal exposure? mister simpson, why is there a discrepancy between your earlier testimony and that of justice department official bruce kim jong un 6? >> forcing simpson to testify today because they knew he would not ask questions and his contact with kim jong un 6. >> this would make joseph mccarthy proud. like senator mccarthy this committee is largely conducted through secret confidential interviews and depositions, binding witnesses and their counsel to silence while members walk outside to all of you, the media and the public and selectively leaked from those rs interviews to tell you what they want you to hear. >> reporter: bruce or was on capitol hill for a similar deposition about how he passed the dnc and clinton funded dossier to the fbi in fall of 2016. on twitter the presidentheresi questioned why bruce kim jong un 6 is still working at the justice department. republicans said they are studying substantive legal position. >> if he has reasonable apprehension of, prosecutions and certainl

. >> and jessica simpson, her first sit down since revealing her baby news. >> i had baby fever. didn't know i really needed a thermometer. >>> this is "entertainment tonight." >> it's official. prince harry and meghan markle are expecting their first child. not even a baby on board is going to slow down meghan. but not even a baby on board is going to stop meghan from her royal duties. >> listen to this, meghan is scheduled to attend 76 engagements in the next 16 days. i'm tired just thinking about it. so how is the mom to be going to get enough rest? >> meghan was beaming when she landed in sidney, despite a 22-hour flight. and those purple binders? well, they caused a lot of reporters to wonder if the 37-year-old was hiding a baby bump. ten hours later kensington palace confirmed it tweeting, the duchess of sussex is expecting a baby in the spring of 2019. a palace spokesperson tells "e.t." that meghan has passed her 12-week mark of pregnancy and is in good health. the palace also released a statement from meghan's mom doria ragland that she quote looks forward to welcoming he

we can't get going simpson to testify under oath.t the 302s, the gang of eight information, or the fisa applications that where all subpoenaed, supposed to be coming out. you are suing the dnc and who else? >> perkins coie. >> sean: the law firm. i got to imagine here, you are going to be a really wealthy guy because what they did to you -- all your fourth amendment protections were stopped on.n. this is not political even in any way, carter. >> it's also -- he goes beyond any damages or any financial aspects. there is just -- there has been so many lies, as you were alluding to. you look at the damage it did to our democratic systems and our institutions of government. back in 2016. i'm just trying to get some justice in terms of getting some disclosure. if you look at some of the prior dodgy dossier cases, he is the one that got some of the biggest information out there, that senate judiciary committee and house intelligence committee have been facing a lot of things on. >> sean: you also help your government. you would debrief aft

he blasted glenl simpson and twitter.issue has been put out there by a conservative writer. he said what does president trump, the fbi, the doj. cory booker, kamala harris or elizabeth warren for collusion in their campaign. >> the point is the way this thing developed as everybody has seen is the minute the issues are raised about mccabe, comey, strzok, page, everybody immediately went to scorched earth. that's merely an attempt to detract and detract from the mueller probe. but the reality is, i think they are worried. there are story lines worth examining. like gregg jar entrepreneur examining his book. liz: what the new york printed, would they have print an anti-opinion piece on the resistance to obama? >> shoe on the other foot, absolutely not. liz: why is the shoe on the other foot test so important. >> it's another way of looking at hypocrisy. either side, a republican is bent out of shape about this and in comes the tape from the interview from two years ago saying the opposite. joe biden saying an fbi background

glenn simpson. late today, fox news obtained a letter senate to the house judiciary committee and confirms that simpson will take the fifth if called to capitol hill. it says he will invoke his constitutional rights not to testify under the first and the fifth amendments of the constitution. this committee's inquiry is not designed to discover the truth, the letter said. the obvious and at times goal is to go after clinton. in one episode he told the senate panel last year he did not meet with justice department official bruce ohr until after the election but ohr's e-mail obtained by fox news show it was as early as august 2016. as you know, lou, simpson used ohr as a back channel to get russia information to the bureau after the f.b.i. fired the british spy who compiled the dossier for simpson. >> lou: thank you as always there. you're welcome. >> lou: great reporting. catherine herridge. appreciate it. joining us the republican national committee woman for the great state of california harmeet dhi

ray galton had met alan simpson while recovering from tb.ally they got the attention of a comic. tony hancock. as he went past he said, "did you write that?" and we thought, should we own own up or not? and we said, yes. and he said, "very funny." and walked on. and that was our first words with tony. after hancock came came a one off comedy playhouse. the offer, about rag and bone men. steptoe & son. their partnership, apart from one venture in the 90s, was essentially over by the late 70s. but their brand of comedy, rooted in class and thwarted aspiration, was, in its day, all conquering. it'll be 110 by the time you've finished. ray golton, a pioneer of the british sitcom. a stencil spraypainting by elusive artist banksy has attracted controversy after it self—destructed just moments after being sold for more than £1 million. the framed girl with balloon, one of the artist's best—known works, was auctioned by sotheby‘s in london. the piece shows a girl reaching towards a heart—shaped balloon and was the final work sold at the auction. dun

attorney, confirming that simpson will not defy congress.the house subpoena and if you're on capitol hill tomorrow, but he won't answer questions about the anti-trump dossier. he still plans to take the fifth. the statement reads "compelling glenn simpson to appear for a confidential deposition after he has stated his intention to invoke his cause additional rights not to testify at reflects the worst practices of past congressional investigations. reinforces that this is a political exercise, not a serious inquiry." mr. simpson has already voluntarily testify for over 25 hours before three congressional committees. critics point out those committees did not have complete information about the anti-trump dossier. and its political routes financed by the dnc and clinton campaigns. depositions are also scheduled the fbi's former top lawyer james a baker. he revealed earlier this month to rational investigators that the russia case was handled in a "abnormal fashion," as well as a russia researcher nellie ohr worked for simpson's company fusion

simpson was working for the opposition. also the key lawyer was the key lawyer for the national committee and clinton campaign. the document that was put together was used to go to the secret court to spy on the campaign. that's never suppose to happen but it did. >>reporter: rod rosenstein okayed the final fisa warrant. the warrant to spy on carter page was renewed three times and the final was given the glean light. is he a witness? >> exactly right, there are all kinds of conflicts here. we know that they have been in conflict in arguing about who should be reduced. both of them should be reduced. >>reporter: let me ask you about the conflicts about what you ladder from andrew mccabe who has been referred to criminal charges. apparently there are conflicts. >> yeah. no, there are. like you said, both of them shouldn't be overseeing the mueller investigation. rosenstein wrote the memo that was given to the president one of the things mueller is looking into is obstruction of justice. neither should be involved. mccabe isn

glenn simpson was spreading that information out to the press and now we know glenn simpson was meetinglong before he testified to congress that he was meeting with the fbi. this is somebody who likely lied to congress, should probably be prosecuted which is likely why today he pled the fifth and refused to testify before congress. >> tucker: it is so frustrating to watch as a voter, i think i speak for many other boaters. thank you very much for everything you're doing. up next, a facebook employee just quit the company and denounced it as a left-wing monoculture. that opposes free speech. it's nothing you didn't know, next. it's time to get out of line with upmc. at upmc, living-donor transplants put you first. so you don't die waiting. upmc does more living-donor liver transplants than any other center in the nation. find out more and get out of line today. >> tucker: an engineer at facebook has left that company, he said he's fed up with the company's culture. he left facebook october 12, he sent a memo explaining why he did to his fellow employees. if he called facebook a political

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ray galton had met alan simpson while recovering from tb. write for hospital radio and then sent a script to the bbc. eventually they got the attention of a comic. tony hancock. as he went past he said, "did you write that?" and we thought, should we own own up or not? and we said, yes. and he said, "very funny." and walked on. and that was our first words with tony. after hancock came came a one off comedy playhouse. the offer, about rag and bone men. steptoe & son. their partnership, apart from one venture in the 90s, was essentially over by the late 70s. but their brand of comedy, rooted in class and thwarted aspiration, was, in its day, all conquering. it'll be 110 by the time you've finished. ray golton, a pioneer of the british sitcom. now on bbc news — hundreds of people are killed by the police in the us each year. much of the media attention has been on the race of victims, but there is another disturbing pattern to the deaths. a large number of those killed in interactions with police have a disability. many of the dead had been li

ray galton had met alan simpson while recovering from tb.the bbc. eventually they got the attention of a comic. tony hancock. as he went past he said, "did you write that?" and we thought, should we own own up or not? and we said, yes. and he said, "very funny." and walked on. and that was our first words with tony. after hancock came came a one off comedy playhouse. the offer, about rag and bone men. steptoe & son. their partnership, apart from one venture in the 90s, was essentially over by the late 70s. but their brand of comedy, rooted in class and thwarted aspiration, was, in its day, all conquering. it'll be 110 by the time you've finished. ray golton, a pioneer of the british sitcom. ray galton, who has died aged 88. with all the sport now, here's karthi gna nasegaram at the bbc sport centre. good evening. it has been a day of mixed emotions for the manchester united manager, jose mourinho, but if you don't want to know today's premier league results, it is time to pop out of the room as match of the day follows soon on bbc one. the b

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glenn simpson was spreading that information out to the press and now we know glenn simpson was meetinghe fbi long before he testified to congress that he was meeting with the fbi. this is somebody who likely lied to congress, should probably be prosecuted, which is most likely why today he pled the fifth and refused to testify before congress. w >> tucker: it is so frustrating to watch as a voter, i have to say i think i speak for many other voters. thank you very much for i everything you're doing.a up next, a facebook employeeee just quit the company and denounced it as a left-wing monoculture. that opposes free speech. it's nothing you didn't know, next. what would it look like... ...if we listened more? could the right voice, the right set of words, bring us all just a little closer, get us to open up, even push us further? it could. if we took the time to listen. the most inspiring minds. the most compelling stories. download audible. and listen for a change. hundred roads named "park" in the u.s. it's america's most popular street name. but allstate agents know that's where the s

a deposition is also on deck for russia researcher at nellie ohr who also worked for simpson. in addition, documents show her husband, justice department official bruce ohr became the unofficial back channel for the dossier to the fbi. significantly, sean, his earlier testimony conflicts with ohr's emails about the contact. meanwhile the house committee's republican term and is considering a subpoena for the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein to secure his testimony under oath about whether he's seriously discussed with the president and removed him from office. also late today at carter page who was the subject of the surveillance warrant was the target of that effort to file a lawsuit against the dnc as well as a law firm, and that law firm was directly with simpson on the trunk dossier. >> we have one other little piece here in the fbi and we know that andrew mccabe is under investigation. now he is also being investigated for leaks as it relates to general flynn. and those leaks, we knew from the get-go, were illegal, because -- it shouldn't have been leaked in the fir

simpson? mr. simpson, will you take our questions?ney said he was taking the fifth because he testified in front of other committees and he felt this was really a circus and not a serious investigation. separately, we've heard from two republicans who have been in the deposition behind me this morning on the rod rosenstein issue. they both said that they were unhappy. one used the word that it was unacceptable, the terms that had been agreed to next week. this will be at this point a closed door under oath transcribed interview, but it's going to be in a classified setting in a secured facility. it's going to take some time for that record to be declassified and made public. harris. melissa. >> melissa: that's okay. great reporting. for more on all of this, let's bring in the former deputy assistant attorney general under president george w. bush. what's your reaction to what you just heard from catherine? >> i think it shows that there was fair amount of potential corruption in the justice department. as a former official, it scares

is it really possible that bruce ohr was wife was paid by simpson and gps fusion and who was used as a pond in this whole scam parenthetically witch hunt is still working for the department of justice, can this really be

this is about the fact that glen simpson could be in trouble.her: he did not tell committees that he met nelly ohr, bruce ohr's wife who is apparently going to testify next week possibly. >> right. there's a reason for this, you don't take the fifth, you've got problems. attorney is giving advise for good reason. heather: should he be subpoenaed? >> he should be subpoenaed, should be brought before the committee and he could then take the fifth publicly. in that event, the congress can get immunity if they wanting to down that route or try to hold him in contempt if they do not believe he's appropriately invoking the fifth amendment. heather: give him immunity -- >> that's not what they are going to do. if you get immunity, you can't plea the fifth, you lost potential for criminal liability and you can be compelled. i don't see them doing that. i think they'll dispute the fifth and say you're not taking the fifth for legal reasons, could take that to district court and challenge him by holding him in contempt. heather: let's talk about the other

david: new details concerning glenn simpson, the co-founder of fusion gps. that was the firm paid by the dnc and the clinton campaign for the discredited dossier. he plans to appear before a hearing next tuesday before the house judiciary committee, but his lawyer says he'll take the fifth. he told officials he first met with bruce ohr after the 2016 election. but ohr's emails and handwritten notes show contact months before. ohr's wife nellie is also expected to testify. she did research for fusion gps. gregg jarrett, if they read your book, they would have known bruce ohr had contact with simpson before the election. gregg: they are the ones behind the hoax funded by hillary clinton that was feeding phoney information to the fbi. david: even if simpson does plead the fifth web is on record saying he didn't know. he is in trouble, even if he pleads the fifth. >> i read this testimony today. and a couple other things jump out at you. he insiste insist -- he insistey read it. of course he said i only met with bruce after the election. the documents show befor