church should have taken care of a long time ago. 18 years is a long time for the vindication of sinead o'connor, but she's finally gotten it. >> is there a bias to the catholic church. >> judy when you say vindication of sinead o'connor, you mean tearing the picture of the pope in half. >> suggesting there is tremendous abuse in the church not being addressed by the church itself. >> i'll go with the new york daily news, which was a rare, fair-minded voice on this and said fairness for the pope, reminds us that he was not at fault in the wisconsin case. cardinal ratinger was in munich when the case in wisconsin erupted and settled in the '90s, i mean, ratinger was nowhere near authority on these issues until 2001. i think this, the loving detail that the new york times poured into this page after page, exhibit after exhibit, website after website on all of the stuff just proves how gleeful they are on this and it is-- the worst you could say was that the catholic church was deficient in the '90s and peggy didn't praise the new york times she praised the boston globe, the boston globe, in 2002,

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thing, get angry when you perform with wynton marsalis, kurt nilsen, from norway, snoop dogg, sinead o'connorhe country say is willie leaving us? >> well, i don't think any of them really get angry. the ones that get angry, that makes it all worthwhile. there aren't many out of there think i don't know what i'm doing. >> larry: you're beyond that. do you still play nashville? >> sure. absolutely. i enjoy playing nashville. and the band that we used on this new record, these are all nicheville pickers. and we played in nashville with all these songs a few weeks ago. >> larry: are they the best? they always talk about the nashville sound. >> these are the cream of the crop. this is ronnie mccoury and his family, del mccoury, a great group of bluegrass pickers and chris sharp and dennis crouch, great upright bass player. these guys, the fiddle player, these are the real pickers. and it's always comfortable to be able to look at anybody in the room and nod at them and know they're going to take a great course. >> larry: kind of fun when you sing with great people. >> absolutely. >> larry: they ma