whereas sinema is much more reticent. she doesn't talk about these issues from a values perspective. >> she's not doing town halls or -- >> or even to reporters really about what her perspective is on tax cuts or drug benefits or social programs. i think she would benefit from that. >> i think that's right. although i am sympathetic to the -- >> i don't think anybody here supports disrupting the wedding. let's be clear. >> absolutely right. it's the kind of tactic that makes apolitical people like that couple think, i don't want to have havinganything to do wi these people. that's the sort of thing that people who are not totally in sync with the public ought to give more attention to when they think about how to be an activist. >> to be continued. >>> coming up next, the stunning number of americans who are buying into some extreme conspiracy theories. >>> plus, actor and former white house official cal penn joins us live to discuss his revealing new memoir. stay with us. constipated? set yourself free with fleet. gentle

sinema is expected according to her democratic colleagues to vote for the package.ke joe manchin come down. he did not answer when i asked if this should be delayed until next year, only saying they should continue to discuss this amid his concerns about inflation, so while they're getting this big victory here, still big questions about the timing, the substance, and ultimately how that larger bill will come out. more negotiations to come, and joe biden's party fall in line, that's the big question going forward. >> we heard from senator sinema there, all 50 democrats in the senate voted for this legislation. they could have picked any one of them to speak at the ceremony today. is it cynical of me to suggest that that is not a coincidence that senator sinema was there on stage? >> you cynical, nah. of course. she's important. they need her. you know, they need her to vote on the build back better. you know, to be fair. she was key in the infrastructure bill, so it is a deserved spot. let's just say that. but also, you know, you have to take notice of the fact that

further, kyrsten sinema on drug prices. she is further to the right than donald trump on prescription drug prices. of course, trump never got that through the republican congress, and i do not understand how she can be farther to the right than donald trump when it comes to negotiating drug prices, which would save the government money. that is in, the government. the only thing i can think out -- did she get some kind of lobbying contract with big pharma so that when she is out of congress, she can go work for lobbying firm for bid format? that is all i can think. i do not know why either of those two is farther to the right than the two republicans i mentioned. caller: -- guest: democrats are running into the political reality. the political reality is that they need every single one of those 50 democratic senators to vote yes. they need nearly all of the 200 plus democrats in the house because of those razor thin margins. they are operating in this tiny window. manchin and synema -- sinema believe they are representing t

/or sinema. >> paid family leave was popular. it does not seem like that will be in the final version. is there any version of the proposal republican senators would support or you would support? should i come up down the line sometime? sen. mcconnell: if i were the majority leader and we would set the agenda, that would be a good discussion to have, but we are not setting the agenda. we are reacting to what they are proposing and that seems challenging for them as well. >> how would you expected to score and how would that affect your progress? sen. mcconnell: i'm having a hard time hearing you with your mask on. >> based on the way the bill stands today, how would you expect -- sen. mcconnell: how the bill stands today? i don't know, do you? i'm pretty sure many of the democrats are not sure what it looks like either. what it seems to me is if the house passes the reckless taxing and spending bill, that will not be the final word. i think whatever can i get out of the senate, if anything can and i'm hopeful that i cannot, it wi

senator sinema is a wonderful test case for that. >> so you make the case that sinema's style is strategicnal? >> a great question. i think it is very complex. i think she is trying to do a couple things. the first thing she is doing both with the color story, the playfulness, the fit of her style choices is that she is trying to signal that she is an independent. she is a maverick that does not play by the traditional masculinous rouls of the senate. she is also trying to play to the idea that she not only thinks for herself but that she ultimately will make decisions that align with whatever her political -- which way the wind is blowing for her politically. she is trying to perform that she is a maverick. the problem is that her performance has to get bigger as her actual politics become less and less maverick like. as she has become really cut and dried, traditional politician, as she has drifted away from the progressive caucus in her state of arizona, you actually see her style become more and more overt. she is trying to not only attract attention but shape how we talk about her. if

they know kyrsten sinema is going to be difficult.he challenge for the white house has always been a sinema solution isn't necessarily a manchin solution. they think they have sinema sort of solved but they have to figure out how to get manchin there and manchin when you read that statement he made last week on the release of the strategic petroleum oil reserve, it was so clear he was so frustrated about so many other things, a warning sign. >> he's back at home in west virginia, often hears a lot of complaints from some of his constituents when he's there. i expect we see a few manchin and sinema sightings at the white house this week. join us back here every sunday at 8:00 a.m. and weekday at noon. up nih director francis collins and arkansas governor asa hutchinson. thank you for sharing your sunday morning with us. you get more with aarp medicare advantage plans from unitedhealthcare. like $0 copays on tier 1 and tier 2 prescription drugs. ♪ wow! ♪ ♪ uh-huh. ♪ $0 copays on primary care visits. ♪ wow! ♪ ♪ uh-huh. ♪ and with unitedh

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they are saying let joe biden deal with manchin and sinema. and instead, once the negotiations are done over the larger bill, as long as voting -- voted on at the same time as the infrastructure bill, that will be enough for us to say, okay, and green light it. essentially, making -- ensuring that that bill -- $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill -- could become law. at the same time, manchin is getting criticized including from senator bernie sanders of vermont who said to us earlier today, joe manchin's concern about the debt. why not look at the infrastructure bill that was passed by the senate that joe manchin supported that added more than $250 billion to the deficits over to the decade? according to the nonpartisan congressional budget office. i asked joe manchin about that just moments ago. that criticism and about the fact that the cbo said that it would add to the deficit. >> senator, the infrastructure bill you supported added $250 billion to the deficit according to cbo. so how do you square that with your comments today about the conc

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they didn't elect manchin or sinema or what have you.mocrats -- i hear it all the time -- joe biden needs to realize that this kumbaya -- they say the word s -- is not going to work. they don't want to work with you republicans, they are not going to work with you and there are people in your party who don't want to work with you. stop with the kumbaya, be stronger, get your agenda passed. make people face consequences for not helping you with your agenda. >> it is a little harder when the president approval rating is as low as it is. that being said, there was a lot of frustration among house democrats, particularly house democratic leadership, when the president came to the hill last week and did not ask explicitly ask for -- for the democrats to pupp put up the votes on the infrastructure bill. there was no hard ask and pelosi felt like she was left in the wind trying to get the votes together and that was because progressives said we are not going to have the votes for you. we are not going to provide the votes for that. fast forward

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sinema said a lot of this is not the framework they've all agreed to.portant first step. it's not going to -- no version of this is going to pass in the senate because you have sinema and manchin who have said on the record many times, this is too much spending in the middle of inflation and this country simply cannot afford it. and they've been on record many times saying they're not going to support these proposals. >> thank you so much to you all. alice, i'm going to have you back. we didn't have time to go back to that. next time. >>> chinese state media says these photos prove that missing tennis player is okay. are they legit? that's next. (chloe) wireless family plans save you money, but then you have to deal with family. (aunt 1) chloe... (aunt 2) still single, dear? (chloe) so i got visible. team up with friends and get unlimited data for as low as $25 a month. no family needed. (dad vo) is the turkey done yet?! (mom vo) here's your turkey! (chloe) turkey's done. [fire alarm blares] (grandpa) answer the phone. (chloe) that's the fire alarm, gra

more about house speaker nancy pelosi who negotiated directly with senator sinema when it came to thiswe know about those negotiations and where do we stand this morning? >> reporter: to be a fly on the wall during that negotiation, right? you don't often see the speaker of the house negotiating directly with a senator. but in this case, there was a lot of concern and frustration on the house side among democrats that sinema and manchin were both out of the control of the speaker. and when it comes to prescription drug prices, this was an issue massively important to moderates and front line members who are in vulnerable swing districts. a lot of them ran on lowering prescription drug prices. speaker nancy pelosi rolled up her sleeves, got to work and was instrumental in the negotiations. they came up with a compromise. there are going to be the ability for medicare to negotiate some drug prices with certain drugs for certain companies. it is not everything that moderates and progressives wanted. but so far we're seeing that sinema signed off and it is probably going to make it into th

dionne, are you similarly reassured that kyrsten sinema is onboard? >> i am. weeks back congresswoman jayapal spoke of a very productive meeting she'd had with sinema. sinema that moment wasn't ready to say she was going to vote for this thing. but you've lot of people in and around the white house that when she sat down with them, she was actually serious about negotiating. i think after a very long and complicated journey, she seems to want to land with the rest of the democrats on this. and let's face it. this is half the size, roughly, of what they had hoped for. the progressive democrats have gone a long way to reassure manchin and sinema by giving them a bill the size they said they wanted. >> that's interesting. time will tell. we'll find out maybe this time next week whether you're right. e.j., thank you for joining us tonight. >> great to be with you. >>> coming up, less than two weeks away from thanksgiving, and covid cases are on the rise in the north. are we in for another pandemic winter? that's next. ext. d to go higher. (man 1) higher. (man 2) d

the vast majority of this bill is pre-conferenced with senators manchin and sinema.ith them, but this is again a place where president biden has shown tremendous leadership. he had those negotiations and that is why we ended up at the bill we ended up at. now, there are a few things that aren't pre-conference. we'll have to work those out. but i believe, through my conversations and with those senators, as well as the president's own commitment that he is confident that we can get 51 votes, we're going to get this done and get it done before christmas, hopefully in the first weeks of december, and people are going to see once again that government's got your back, that democrats in the house, the senate, and the white house delivered for them. >> we only have a minute left, but i do want to ask you about something the republicans keep talking about. that this bill the not paid for. the cbo said even with revenue from the irs, it could add $160 billion to the deficit. what's your response? >> well, first of all, it's absolutely ludicrous that republicans would be levy

they're not so secretly rooting for manchin and sinema. >> manchin and/or sinema are going to write theld observe it's quite a challenging exercise for them. i'm glad it is. >> chuck schumer just announced a deal with sinema to bring down the cost of medicine covered by medicare. is. >> but empowering medicare to directly negotiate prices in part b and part d, this deal will directly reduce out of pocket drug spending for millions of patients every time that they visit the pharmacy or doctor and senator sinema has told me she supports this agreement. i think we're there. >> we're starting to get clarity on timing. nancy pelosi believes we should have bill text tonight. schumer says the senate needs next week the scrub the bill. schumer tends to put it on the floor the week of november 15. that's why the house could vote hear this week but it's unclear in the house could handle potential changes by the senate. neil? >> neil: chad pergram, thanks very much. last time we spoke to mark warner said nobody would be quick but it would be deliberate. now what? we'll ask him. hey, hey, hey! chec

senate and two key figures in achieving that are moderates senator joe manchin and kyrsten sinema.eting of the mirn minds are there. >> reporter: yeah. that's what lies ahead for democrats. the celebration of passage in the house is brief and momentarily because now he faces the tricky task of muscling the bill through the senate. it's expected that this bill will see changes in the senate in order to get all 50 democrats on board. that means some of the president's top priorities like paid family leave maybe on the chopping block. now, two of the key senators in this debate will be senator joe manchin and kyrsten sinema who have each expressed concerns about elements of the bill as well as the price tag. one issue they have is whether the price tag of this, $1m.9 trillion could contribute to inflation down the road but listen to leader chuck schumer. >> everybody knows the house did a very strong bill. everybody knows that manchin and sinema have their concerns, but we're going try to negotiate with them and get a very strong bold bill out of the senate which will then go back to

pete buttigieg was out in arizona promoting it with kyrsten sinema.he deserves for helping push the infrastructure bill through. we know they're going to be working and talking to him behind the scenes with how the white house has been addressing this. you should vote for the reconciliation plan for trying to address it. >> mike memoli and julie tsirkin, thank you so much. >>> for more on this, let's bring in our political panel. joe walsh is a former congressman who ran for the 2020 presidential nomination. good morning to both of you. so, emily, how big is this for democrats? we heard julie talking about some of the sticking points. what do you think is going to stay, and what do you think is going to have to go? >> this is huge for democrats. so much support the democrats got. they wanted to see something -- they wanted to see effectiveness. they wanted to see democrats pass something that will help regular people, and that is a ton of what's in the build back better plan. it's paid leave, child care, home care visits. it's things that real people

on the drug pricing, we have been a sickly drilling down and getting senator sinema's input and senator schumer's input and i believe the drug pricing provision ac is it. i guess there could be changes, but i don't think they are at significant and the fact that we have negotiated pricing and savings as the cbo showed, it means this is a provision that saves money and at the same time does a lot in terms of affordability for seniors and others. the same would be true for methane. nancy and i and the group went to glasgow for the climate conference and they were touting international action on methane. you have an important provision with regard to methane that was worked on with the senators and house members over the last few weeks. i believe just using those as an example that this is pretty much it. there may be additional changes but in terms of paying for it and in terms of the actual substantive language, i think we are pretty solid at this point. there is no reason why this bill couldn't come back from the senate with minor changes. nothing major in my opinion. >> thank you. we h

even if they come to an agreement in the house and it goes to the senate you have joe manchin and sinema their own fingerprints on whatever legislation passes the senate if any. manchin has been out there saying listen were going too fast, run too far, let's take time. i do not see this happening right now but i do think it's going to get done. if i can make one last point is how this with obamacare. democrats knew it was unpopular with the people but they knew they could fundamentally transform healthcare in america. they voted for that legislation and a lot of democrats lost a seat set. the same thing's going to happen here. the 20 transform the social safety net innate socialist fashion democrats are going to lose more seats because of passing this bill. but they stated that will be worth will make kevin mccarthy the speaker we have is impulsive for decades to come. the board talked about hammering the election they seem very keen to pressing on. you think there are any democrats sean hunt mentioned manchin and sinema they had a lot of second thoughts already are maybe now having thir

. >> it is futile to talk about senator sinema. let's talk about senator manchin, because last week he said things look good but that isn't a yes. i wonder, do you book the senate press room if you're not at yes. >> reporter: it would be surprising to hear him come out and say that explicitly. because he has had concerns about a number of provisions and he's had concerns about some of the things that ultimately are in here. so to say that he wants to come out and detail what he calls clarity on his position, would suggest perhaps concerns, things that he wants changed and what we do know -- here he is now. >> let's listen in. >> let's wait, give more to -- to come in. anybody out in the hallway? first of all i want you to thank you all for coming. and i've heard a lot of the mischaracterizations of my position since the president met with the house democrats last thursday. and i would like to make an attempt to clear up any confusion about where i stand on the legislation that is working its way through congress. in all of miff yea

the fact that that is not happening is firmly at kyrsten sinema's feet. the bill that is under consideration, we were talking about the kinds of things this caller bought up at his far as what i thought and many people thought were the kinds of directions we need to go in, a lot of that was just really halted by a couple really obstructionist centers, but it still does make some transformational changes. spending would be paid for by one of the key things is a surtax on people who make more than $10 million a year. it will help with rising inequality, but it is by no means the transformational tax policy changes that we all want. host: michael strain, i will have you respond to a tweet from ajay. he writes what role do you think the childcare shortage plays in the supply of labor and what solutions do you think or suggest for filling these critical jobs? michael: i think it plays a role and is an example of the concept that heidi and i were talking about earlier, how big a role does public policy play in the current state of the economy? i have a child at

arizona's kyrsten sinema and west vap joe manchin. interesting to see the white house approach to both this week. saw senator sinema getting a prime speaking role at that bill signing ceremony at the white house and monday and saw pete buttigieg at her state doubling down, congratulating her. a big part of negotiating that. with joe manchin, quieter, behind the scenes. seen a shift in messaging around the white house to emphasize the fact in their view this will actually not only deal with inflation, actually brings down costs for millions of americans, eve than cbo score, white house putting spin on it despite ma the cbo found economists say this will reduce the deficit. a message aimed squarely at joe manchin. expect the white house and top officials and perhaps the president himself to be in touch with both of those senators as we move ahead, but obviously taking a bit of a breath to celebrate his birthday, the holiday, before they get back to worth. >> could use his birthday as a strategy. call both saying it's my birthday today.

you named manchin, sinema, they are the moderates who tend to hold out.ork we're seeing that passed the house doesn't match with what the white house put out. then you have bernie sanders saying that he wants to strengthen secretary of areas like expand -- several areas like expanding taxes and climate change provisions. how do the sides come together, that is going to be taking a lot of work from chuck schumer. with all these other deadlines on the table, he's going to have a really heavy load. it's going to be getting concessions from both sides, and we're going to see if that is going to also work when they change the bill in the house. for the house members. >> yeah. let's see and how quickly that is done. olivia beavers, great seeing you. thank you for being with me this morning. >>> joining me is democratic california congressman lou correa. it's a pleasure to see you. how are you? >> same you to, jose. good morning. happy thanksgiving. >> good morning. likewise to you and yours. congressman, your caucus pushed the "build back better" bill to the se

i hope sinema and manchin. i know they're watching this show. stand firm against this bill. >> benjamin: i'm sure you believe 3 trillion dollars would help the economy at the moment. i presume supportive of that. again this civil war that's getting in the middle of it >> i mean, i think steve overstates the case. we just passed a trillion dollar infrastructure bill that steve opposed and thought was terrible and done with bipartisan report with republicans and democrats. i think the democratic party has always been a bigger tent and tried to incorporate more divergent views and that makes close votes like this more difficult because when you've got 50 votes in the senate. 50 vetoes. i think on a technical matter i don't think aoc's claim that they -- that the house only voted for it from promises in the senate. if you remember, joe manchin said at the time he would not pre-commit to a bill but he didn't know what was going to be in it and they hadn't specified what was in it. he wanted to get a cbo score. it will be smaller than what the house p

kyrsten sinema and joe manchin.here have to be 50 republicans that are holding the line and don't matter at all. the bill is so radical that even really good democrats like joe manchin and kyrsten sinema unable to vote for it. that should be a message to people. they're nowhere near as moderate as they claim to be. at a time of economic uncertainty to do this type of unpopular spending package and adding summary problem which is not flying. >> harris: senator cruz had a whole list of these people who should be more moderate based on what they're always saying what they promised. he said they're nowhere to be found. do you think that joe biden ever thought that he would be talking about squad members and hostages? >> kayleigh: i think he did. >> harris: hostages politically. >> kayleigh: he is the hostage taker. when joe manchin says that you're not going to change his vote by holding it for structure hostage, the president of the united states' response over this. both times he went to the hill he was supposed to sa

manchin manchin and kyrsten sinema. agreement with the blessing of sinema to lower the cost of medicine under medicare that makes the bill more expensive. it shifts the bill to the left and slightly isolates manchin. the g.o.p. is rooting for manchin and sinema to make mischief. >> there seems to be quite a challenging exercise for them. i'm glad it is. this is a bill america does not want and does not need. the ideal solution would be to not bass written for manchin and sinema. >> worries manchin and sinema could blow up the spending bill and the it infrastructure bill. >> i want to see the deficit. three months into this thing there are certain folks in the house that maybe looking for a reason not to move it forward. to say hold it up. and i don't want to see that happen. senate majority leader chuck schumer announced a general timetable for the social spending bill. he says the senate will scrub the bill next week. that's important to comply with senate budget rules and then schumer wants the senate to start the dat

but, senator sinema, we just don't have the biggest idea. just seems to have no sense of responsibility whatsoever, for public accountability for letting her voters know what work she's trying to do, or letting her colleagues in the congress know what she's trying to accomplish. >> lawrence, that's what's been disappointing and we've discussed this before. no transparency, no accountability, but i'm convinced now that she's told a few key people that she's for. but think about it like this, let's say you have a big family thanksgiving dinner, you're doing the man you, and any one person, anyone relative, can't say no to the whole thing. i mean, that's what it's like for this president. and he said that are hours. okay, spend an hour with the president -- he spent hours with lawmakers, he sat with progressives longer than i've sat with progressives. he's had so much patience -- the speakers has so many relationships -- they're pulling together something that is remarkable. and history won't judge all the scrimmage is, they'll drug that finall

one of the sticking points is the signoff moderate senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. lauren fox is on capitol hill this morning. we know one of the things progressives are working on is to get drug pricing reform, further medicare expansion into that spending package. where are we in terms of negotiations, lauren? >> reporter: the most significant development over the weekend, progressives arguing they are ready to move ahead with both a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill and that larger social safety net package. that is significant. over the course of the last several weeks, that has been one of the key drivers for why biden didn't have something to deliver when he went abroad. now, one of the other question marks is what is going to be included in this larger spending bill. there are items of course that had been left on the table and a couple of things democrats are trying to negotiate. one of them like you pointed out is prescription drugs and i'm told that house speaker nancy pelosi had a conversation with arizona moderate senator kyrsten sinema over the

i mean schumer is under a lot of pressure to get it done, that's pretty obvious but manchin and sinemaeir own calculations and i got to say manchin's objection, economists can quarterle all they want, throwing this much more money into the system, especially in the short term, it's fully funded sort of over ten years but not over the first few years, will be inflationary and those numbers, i think, have really given him a talking point about being more careful and i think if you look at the polls and focus groups the degree to which middle class, working class americans are feeling the pinch of inflation, they might like all the things, many do like the things donna discussed and may be worthwhile but explaining that these good things are coming down the pike while people actually, the standard of living month to month now has been depending on which numbers you believe either not going up much or going down a bit because things cost more. maybe that's temporarily. maybe it's a little longer lasting, though, inflation really, parties get penalized for inflation, even if it's a little u

now the focus turns to the senate and all eyes are specifically on to moderate democrats, kyrsten sinema> it takes a while to get to the senate, probably after thanksgiving. >> the president's director of economic counsel told bret baier, he is optimistic that the bill back better will pass the senate, here he is. >> we will work with every member of the senate on this bill but i think because of the work over several months we do have a good understanding of where the consensus lies, and lies in lowering cost for making families. >> the senate changes, any of those changes has to come back to the house. we have another bite of the apple and more people who learn about this. >> the president as an important decision to make in the next several days whether he wants to replace federal reserve chair jerome powell admitted the highest inflation rate in 30 years he could reap a point i will under powell or lael brainard and someone who's been with the fed since 2014. the president made his way back to the white house in the last hour or so had to nantucket for the thanksgiving holiday with f

manchin and sinema have their own calculations, and i've gotta say, manchin's made an objection, but throwing this much more money into the system, this question in the short term. it's fully funded over long term, sort of, not over the first years, and those inflation numbers have really given him a talking point about being more careful about this. and i do think we just look at the polls, the rate at which middle class, working class americans are feeling the pinch of inflation. they might like all the things, but many of the things that donna discussed, it might be worthwhile things, but explaining that these good things are coming down the pipe well people actually, this standing of living -- you either are not going up much, or going down a bit, because things just cost more. maybe it's temporary, there's a big debate about that, maybe it's gonna be a long-lasting though. inflation but -- even if it's a little unfair, if it out happens on their watch. so i'd be pretty worried about, that if i were in the biden white house. >> indeed, donna and bill have agreed to stay with us,

are you confident ultimately that manchin and sinema are going to vote for it? >> i'm confident we'll get there. they've been pretty clear that they'll support reconciliation package and they haven't backed off of that. listen, i understand and i don't speak for them, but i luistened to joe manchin today. i understand his frustration we haven't voted. the president came to the hill on thursday. he said i need your vote on infrastructure to the whole democratic caucus. some refused to let that go forward. that's very frustrating when you're hearing back home that people want us to get this done. so i'm really glad people are coming together. we all worked all weekend to keep talking and working back and forth to try to work through these last details. we're close. we've got to get both bills done. it's really important. and it starts with getting this infrastructure bill done. i'm hopeful we can get a vote on this this week. i've gotten out of the prediction business after these last weeks. every time i feel like we're very close. the bottom line is, what is clea

up final package of the infrastructure bill because they have been demanding joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, they get behind the separate larger bill that has been under negotiation for months. what jayapal said is she and her progressive caucus are no longer going to sit and wait and demand that joe manchin and sinema say they will be a yes. instead they're going to let joe biden make that determination himself, and do what the president promised him, that he will get the two senators to vote for the bill. she said, i trust the president. that's a sign, no longer will they be pushing for that. they plan to vote yes, that means final passage on the $1.2 trillion infrastructure plan, awaiting action in the house since august. if they vote yes, that will go to joe biden's desk, and she is indicating they will. once they finalize the negotiations over that larger bill, and by all counts, they are moving forward on those negotiations. the larger bill, $1.75 trillion was released late last week. behind the scenes there have been a lot of discussions about making changes including dealing with pr

we have been trying to deal with manchin and sinema, and they won't. we're going to go. listen. if we don't do this, people who need earned income tax credit are the ones who lose. there's 17 million working families. 4 million children will lose if we don't do the child tax credit. if we don't raise the money for home health care workers, 28% of them are black. 23% are latino. they will lose. we need to start talking about not how much does it cost, but how much will it cost if we don't do this, and inflation is not an issue in this. jeffrey saxton, the economist said this bill is paid for by taxing the billionaires and that's the problem. people don't want to tax the billionaires even though it's poor wage workers who saved this country during mr. covid. we need bridges but we also need health care and wages and those things that are the infrastructure of people's daily lives. people are not backing down. >> so you've tried to reach out to senators manchin and sinema, and what has happened by you reaching out? have they said no or do you know that they received the invitation

what i will say about manchin and sinema is that i do think they're trying to protect their party from the violent swings we've seen in the electorate. i mean, think about it. in 2009 and '10, democrats did health care alone and they tried to do policy alone. they got punished bug toum in the elections and they tried to rerepeal a len, and they got punished in 2018 and they just want to prevent the pendulum from swinging so drastically back and forth and that's why they're so committed to bipartisanship and i would say it's far beyond who is supporting them and it's about a commitment to working within the system in a way that doesn't provoke this type of violent reaction from the electorate. >> i think when they're prioritizing republican and let's be honest, trump acolytes in congress over priorities of the people that perhaps they should be more concerned about that, but unfortunately, we are out of time and we'll have to save that discussion for another time. thank you so much. lucy caldwell, aaron haynes and carlos cur bello, stay with us for more "cross connection." stay with us.

sources tell me they're not going to get a public commitment from senator manchin and senator sinema, but they realize they are operating in good faith and they were going to trust the process and trust the president in order to get those votes. so progressives were taking this turn, allowing these votes to take place, but with senator manchin's press conference today, that really complicates things, joe. >> john, let's talk more about that. all reporting indicates the house was closer to a deal than ever before, so what does the timing say to you? how much of a wrench does this throw into the whole process? >> i also think if you listen to senator manchin's statement, he was doing what they call chill games. not only timing, i still don't think he's that close on content. the house was supposed to be out. they were going to vote on legislation this week. vote on the build back better act, the infrastructure and the reconciliation framework, then they were supposed to be out. their members are going to -- a number of members are going to scotland for the climate change talks. i don't

sinema played her cards close to the vest in terms of what we actually wants. that doesn't mean she's not talking to the white house or to congress. she just doesn't negotiate for the media. and you saw her signing off on several of the items as it was moving through the house. manchin articulated his concern is basically the economy and his concern this bill is going to worsen inflation and make things harder for some of the americans it is trying to help. i know most of the democrats disagree with him on that, but he is the one with the vote that's so pivotal. on any of the given issues, the state and local tax deduction being raised to $80,000 to $10,000 to the immigration provisions or others, there are any number of democrats who haven't raised a red flag because they have joe manchin doing night judy f we are going to carry our christmas analogy a little bit further. bear with me. if we talk about joe manchin here, does that make him -- i mean he obviously said he does not support paid family leave. does that make him the grinch in all of this. >> i am go

>> i hope senators sinema and manchin will do the right ching and vote no on this.was parents standing up and saying no. then it was those jurors in kenosha, wisconsin doing the right thing. i hope senators sinema and manchin do the right thing and stop this trillions of ridiculous spending that will exacerbate the regard-lie- -- te record-high inflation. judge jeanine: this administration has put so much negative energy out there in terms of the spry plain and gas prices. next we take you inside the minds of the rittenhouse jurors and the drama i am totally blind. and non-24 can make me show up too early... or too late. or make me feel like i'm not really "there." talk to your doctor, and call 844-234-2424. >> we the jury fired the defendant kyle rittenhouse not guilty. judge jeanine: kyle rittenhouse acquitted after 26 hours of jury deliberation. my next guest played an intricate part in the rittenhouse trial. she helped choose the jury and consulting with the defense and giving feedback on the jurors. dr. demetrius joins us now. take us behind the scenes in the r

that's the effect of sinema and manchin.nd it's interesting to see if they can get it done by christmas. it will be tough. >> neil: a lot of people have criticized joe manchin. in the end he always votes with the democrats. but not before he whittled down the price tag of something. people forget that. again, kristen sinema similar newer to the united states senate. so this inflation concern that is built out there, some say government spending will make it worse. that did not seem to register with those that voted for it today. the president made it clear this will alleviate that. that far from making the inflation situation worse, this will actually curb it. what is the sense you're getting from the people that you talk to about that argument, that this is the cure for that inflation, not the agitator? >> it's a tough argument to make, neil. also, we're going to have -- i think that democrats will get something done at some point, whether that is before christmas or before january 1 or early in the new year. then we're goi

thank you to vice president harris, my colleagues in attendance, all of you, and senator sinema, portmanaker pelosi. for years americans were promised that an infrastructure bill was coming. today we're telling the american people that an infrastructure bill is finally here. thank you, president biden! [ applause ] >> at the start of this year, we faced our challenges with boldness and courage. now they're getting one of the largest infrastructure bills ever. to paraphrase one of my favorite former vice presidents, it's a big f-ing deal. there isn't a community in america, not a city, not a town or rural hub that doesn't have some glaring infrastructure problem requiring immediate attention. busted roads make it harder for people to get to work. dilapidated schools make it harder for students to learn. hurting businesses, raising prices on consumers and hurting our economy. if america is to compete in this century, we can't do it with an infrastructure that's stuck in the last century. this infrastructure bill will help us meet the challenges of our time, strengthen our crucial supply ch