i was talking to governor sinunu earlier., to build a transmission line, especially an interstate transmission line, you're talking 7 to 15 years. the prices keep rising. that is a major problem when you're talking about telling people to buy electric cars and then wondering how you're going to get them electricity to power those cars. >> okay. first of all, number one. you are totally right about permitting. it is ridiculous. part of the inflation reduction act is driving toward reducing permitting times. that's ano second bill that we'll follow in september. and the inflation reduction act also provides incentives to lower the time and the cost and the wait time for permitting. so that was just given to us. we want to accelerate this push to clean electricity. the reason we want it to be clean, in addition to the climate, is because solar wind are cheaper in most places across the world, but definitely in the u.s. >> but they're unreliable. they're unreliable. >> they are not unreliable. >> they are unreliable on the grid b