within the clerical hierarchy, both inside and outside iran, and i specifically up that i had al- sistani will step in -- that ayatollah al-sistani will step in at some point -- it is a moment where i anticipate more and more prominent members of the traditional clergy, who, by the way, from the very beginning, were outside of the system, or perhaps also be more encouraged to make clearer statements, not just on khamanei, but the very fact that would khomeini created in 1979 goes against the very tenets of islam, with the clerics believe is not the responsibility for them to govern. we have the case of monterrey, and another who was tortured in prison pumps -- montazeri, and another who was tortured in prison. this is a regime that does not even pity a member of their own, let alone anyone else. this has become a defining moment for clerics both in the interest of the nation, but also in the interest of the faith and the clerical establishment, to show a complete demarcation from the system. >> i have a quick question -- my understanding is that there is a fair amount of differences betwe