major sjursen: i do have a comment about that. again, it feels like the palestinians are being held to a different standard than the israelis. who is to determine what the people want except for the people themselves through democracy? i agree democracy is flawed, but after josette, it is the worst solution except for all the -- but as churchill said, it is the wrist solution except for all the others, essentially. it cannot justify the armed struggle of the palestinians, but article 51 of the armed charter recognizes and the protocol to one division to convention -- a main occupation. argue that because palestinians are still in a state of resistance, a state of insurgency, we have never really seen what a palestinian state would look like. we have only seen the state list of a collaborationist regime that looks like swiss cheese. nothing has been done about the 500,000 jewish-israeli settlers in the west bank. it looks like a piece of swiss cheese, frankly. it is a problem. gene: one more comment and then back to questions. elan

[applause] major sjursen: thank you. so i have about five minutes to address some of the rebuttals from my opponent, who is very educated on the topic. i have one question. why is it, and this is hypothetical, israel's state to give the palestinians? the whole framing is problematic. if there is a light for an equivalent -- tofor grant what is being called a quasi-state to the palestinians, which is little more than an open-air prison in many ways, little more than a collaborationist regime in many ways. my opponent spoke in his earlier remarks about a proponent of freedom perspective, and i agree that should be the framework, but what about the life of actual living, breathing palestinians in gaza today who lack civil rights, who lack basic freedoms of even arabs within israel who do not have the same rights of jews within israel but who have lived under occupation 50 years after the war in defiance of every single ruling of any international court, organizational organization. perhaps 180 countries in the world are all