and skeeter jones left, but i had the opportunity to work with him 10, 12 years ago and he is an amazing master craftsman who works as people did in the 19th century. he sets up a workshop in the house he's working on and will cast plaster and carve brackets. he's a really a mazing craftsman. he's probably the last of his kind today in san francisco, but he designed something -- the project i worked on was a victorian. everything had been stripped off the building and you drive by that building you have no idea. he looked at a couple houses around there, created a facade and you'd have no idea that it was not an authentic facade and that question is that false or did he just build an 1878 building in 2003, i think we should be encouraging that not discouraging that. he created a very beautiful building in a community that had a hole in it because it was so ugly. i think there are places to -- it's the balance and to remember that we're dealing with guidelines, not hard and fast rules. >> i do have a comment on this before i move on. sorry. you know, what i would really prefer then, and t

. >> hello, i'm skeeter jones and i agree with that. we're talking about preservation and all of us probably have an image of a fantastic building in a great neighborhood and sure, we should keep it. but what's happened in san francisco and what i've seen over about 35, 40 years here, is the buildings were changed. they were stuccoed, they were asbestos shingles and there's very little that's historic with them. but to build a new facade it's very difficult to build. these buildings were destroyed. they were built 100 years ago. even the neighborhoods don't look like that anymore. they've all been modernized. now we're going back 50 years saying that whatever was built no matter what is now historic. i think there should be some provision in there that these buildings that have been changed to be able to build historic facade of the period if there are no objections from the neighbors and instead of this false historicism -- most people i say what's wrong with that to take a building that was destroyed more than 50 years into some moder