the republican's name was skelly. i forgot what the democrats name was. they both seem to agree that medicare at that time -- it was $110 a month. they said that was $110 a month for basically an $11,000 insurance policy. it was a good deal for the people. thank you very much for taking my call. host: seung min kim. guest: the simpson bowles reference is interesting because even if it didn't get signoff from everyone in the commission, again, if congress wants to take this up, it does give congress sort of a relatively bipartisan framework to start off from. the members that i did talk to her interested to talk about this issue said we can look at those suggestions. we don't have to start from square one. again, very difficult. host: for more background on the simpson bowles commission, national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform established by presence will order of february 2010 included 18 members split between democratic and republican appointees. in december 2010, the commission released its final report, which included dozens of proposal