what really motivated me was the skokie march. i was fundamentally now leave. -- and i leave. i was a cloistered typical jewish neighborhood in fireman's i could not understand how jews could operate against there perceived self-interest. during the skokie march interview the jewish attorney for the nazis and said how can you do this? at that time i was school by a professor who said there are many things we cannot understand. there was something called the transfer agreement and i did not believe it but finally i assembled a team of 20 or 30 historians and holocaust survivors. there was no second generation movement. we went into five or six countries and accumulated all of the information. some of it was not even that in the archives it was under people's desks being protected. i went to the deal back is a two and i assembled it and put together a book. >> host: it is important. the la habra way this game was structured and then to try to uncover it, at a time before internet access must have been quite extraordinary. maybe you can share the way or the nature of the research

the march 10 question in the skokie march was just outside. if i was presented now i would be the did in an instant i never would have believed i am had a 12 year pact is a widespread commercial coalition with the third reich to identify the jews and to create the basis of the auschwitz tattoo. i never would believe the rockefeller foundation would finance the program that sent joseph mangling into auschwitz. i believe these things now because of the trial by fire i did with the transfer agreement but the revisionist agreement was controlling the jewish agency instead would there have been a transfer agreement were german reparations to the state of israel in the fifties 4/5 what might have been the economic and political outcomes? >> i am often and constantly ef- ast what if questions on the transfer agreement with it had never been there? here is what i think i can answer and it is a very dangerous word in history. what if but if they had controlled the transfer agreement the jewish agency at the time, i doubt very strongly there would have

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