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it's like the words you can't say but skom people can say. >> is it sexist for you to say it's going to be hard to beat hillary clinton because everybody is excited about the fact that she's a woman which is in fact what you said? >> that's absolutely not what i've said. i said people are excited about the historic nature of her candidacy, especially a lot of women. i think she's got massive backing and her husband and the clinton machine, that's what i've said is going to win. i don't even know if i think it's fair but that's what i think is going to win, not the fact she's a woman. >> a lot of people are excited, rightly. a lot of women in my family very excited about the fact that she's a woman. they're not goings oh i'm really excited to go vote for hillary clinton because of the great work she did when she was new york's junior senator. >> joe. >> i'm not knocking anything she's says but let's just stop pretending that barack obama didn't get a huge push in 2008 because he was a historic candidate. and let's not pretend that hillary clinton is not going to get a huge push becaus