this is an area i think, you know, captain skullenberger mentioned in testimony.the area i was in very badly dating myself into the 60's, but probably half of the people that were hired when i was hired as a pilot model the came out of the military, half of them came out of military academies, so we had a wonderful. of course the service of the time was training, we had 50,000 pilots flying in vietnam's we had a lot of extras and seasoned people that came disciplined and they were well trained and educated. they had other options so if you wanted a pilot like that you were going to pay because they had other options. they could go be an engineer or going into another profession. >> but it's an area of interest. anyone else want to comment -- does anyone disagree that is an area that has to be looked at? >> senter i will note the committee asked my office to examine pilot pay. it's an important factor as several members of the committee have pointed out as an influence on the question of fatigue and also perhaps a proxy for the question of experience and how that w