i wouldn't want to say sexual things but whispering things that maybe the slavemaster would tell her to see if she would respond to, it to see if she was like having an affair with the master. >> yes. you're right. that relationship between mrs. flint and harriet is really interesting. and you feel like this is a very sort of angry, frustrated woman who doesn't know what to do. she feels like she's been cheat, she's been betrayed. she doesn't have any power to do anything against her husband. so the only person she thinks that she has power over is harriet jacobs. but it is very interesting. we sort of touched on this already. one of the points i want to kind of pull out here a little bit more is what makes -- from the standpoint of being a woman in slavery, a female slave, what makes harriet jacobs' experiences distinctive? how would you kind of -- what stands out as things that separate her from male slaves? okay. people have to have things to say about this. yeah. >> i think a large portion of her story is she was constantly torn between wanting her own freedom and wanting to be a