are andrewth us slavitt and keener byard -- peter leinart. before we get to mueller with a jeff sessions, what is the latest on that? in such a dysfunctional situation. i'm getting calls from the justice department asking if jeff sessions is going to get fired and when it i don't know. i refer to donald trump's tweets. no one in the white house is quite sure what he is going to do. what we do know is if he does ,ry to do a recess appointment there has been some speculation he could try to replace sessions in the august recess -- chuck schumer did a speech this floorg on the senate and he said we're not going to let you do that. they're not going to allow the recess to happen. donald trump is left without good options here. charlie: you asked, peter, why is trump doing this other than he hates the russian probe, i guess the other answer is he is donald trump. he is a bully and a cruel man. jeff sessions has been deeply loyal to donald trump. he stuck his neck out in the beginning. charlie: and the first -- things forisked donald trump. this is

andrew slavitt administrator of centers for medicare and medicade services. mike leavitt republican governor of utah from 1990 to 2003, and secretary of health and human services under george w. bush. and congressman joseph crowley is chairmannen of the democratic caucus, representing new york's 14th district. here is the conversation about health care. what's happened to us? why has health care been something that has become paramount for the president, president obama to pass, and paramount for president trump to try to repeal is this. >> i think, charlie, in referring to me as a politician, that in and of itself connotes negativity. >> rose: i don't mean it that way. >> i know you don't mean it that way. that's not how it's perceived. oftentimes, when that happens, we referre -- we prefer to be rd to as elected officials. ( laughter ) but the nobility of politics and being involved in public debate on polls issues is a noble thing and ought to be. many would look back to a great deal of the changes and going back to tip o'neal would say the worst thing to

andrew slavitt, mike leavitt, the republican governor -- governor of utah who is also secretary of healthuman services under george bush. here is the conversation about health care. what happened to us, why has health care been something that paramount for president obama to pass and paramount for president trump to repeal? >> i think, charlie, in referring to me as a politician, that in and of itself connotes negativity. [laughter] charlie: i don't mean it that way. >> i know you don't mean it that way, but it is perceived -- when that happens, we prefer to be referred to as elected officials. [laughter] but, the nobility of politics and being involved in public debate on policy issues is a noble thing. it ought to be. many would look back to a great deal of changes, go back to tip o'neill and say the worst thing to happen in washington, d.c. was the jet airplane. because people no longer stake -- getaway day was today. we were on the 2:00 shuttle, there was the congress going back to new york, and everyone was flying out. the commuting factor, i think -- in the modern world of being bac

i want to bring in cnn global affairs correspondent elise slavitt.explain what happened between the ukrainians and the democrats. >> well, essentially, what you had was a consultant, if you will, for the democratic national committee, her name was alexandra, i think, if i'm saying it correctly, and she was someone who was a europe ukrainian-american activist who was doing some outreach with ukraine-american voters for the dnc. now she, in a sense, kind of started researching on her own some of the ties that she thought were between the trump campaign, particularly paul manafort, the then-campaign chairman, and his work with former ukrainian president viktor janakovich. she started sharing it a little bit with the clinton campaign. the way the clinton campaign and the dnc described it is it was never a kind of full briefing or a full paper, but she certainly was passing along her observations and her research to the dnc. now, nothing ever really came of it, but certainly the trump campaign is saying that while, you know, there's a lot of furor over th

stephen moore, andy slavitt, thank you very much. >> very important conversation. >> fascinating.ephen spelled out the philosophical difference. >> and you see two layers of it. left versus right and right versus right alt. we'll keep talking about it. that's for sure. >>> cnn exclusive of a different variety. "harry potter" author j.k. rowling trying to change the lives of women and making an intriguing reveal about a secret manuscript. >> christiane am anpour joins us with her exclusive interview. what did j.k. rowling tell you? >> it is exciting. it's not often you get to sit down with her. she often most communicates with the public vee her tweets, about president trump, about brexit, about children and refugees, her big, big love. especially orphans, who she's trying to get out of institutions. but during our exclusive interview, airing later today, she did actually say something very intriguing for her legions of fictional fans. >> i read you were considering writing a political book for children, young people? >> oh, that was a fairy tale. yeah. and i ended up -- i don't kn

$16.40 >> for the latest on the senate's push to rewrite the health care bill let's bring in andy slavittting administrator for the centers for medicare and medicaid services in the obama administration and it's good to see you again, andy been a couple, six, eight weeks i guess since you've been on good to see you. >> good to be back >> where is -- >> thanks for having me. >> we'll start with -- before we get into the nitty-gritty, where do you think things stand since this is sort of a make or break time, it looks like, for republicans, they're going to try and come back with something, i think this week, to vote on next week. do you think that they're going to be successful >> well, let's just take stock where we are the senate came back from their district in july and i think for a lot of them, many of them, their heads were still where we were in 2016, which was campaigning against obamacare was a great campaign issue and of course that was in the absence of having an actual bill to consider. i think they came back and i think they heard fairly firmly in their districts and in their