so i'm trying to understand this political machine that seems to run, seems to run like a big sledge hammer in the people's face because it was told us to that by the people, for the people, you know, united we stand, divided we -- >> host: all right, wade, leaving it there. mr. greenberg. >> guest: right, a couple questions there, or comments. i think about clinton. i agree he did a lot of good for the economy. the 1993 budget bill, i think, is one of the great unappreciated accomplishments of his presidency, and in a lot of ways it set the ground work for the growth and prosperity of the 1990s. he didn't get a lot of credit for it at the time. partly, there was republican united opposition to it, and he was sort of forced to scrounge up every last democratic vote, but what's also interesting, and you see this a little bit with, you know, the stimulus, and some of what obama got passed too, people were convinced that clinton raised their taxes in 1993 where far more people got tax cuts or lower taxes as a result of the tax bill than ended up paying higher taxes, and yet, you ask people wha