ap she ste besl ofeep r youlife. pisleechq tegynoty anyoway nt. alyeea slmbp nutoer sre. charlie: jeffrey goldberg's here and he is a national correspondent for the atlantic and a winner of the national magazine award for reporting. his new cover article is called the obama doctrine and ross in a series of conversations with the president and others about his foreign-policy decisions and the thinking behind them. james bennett calls it a portrait of a presidential mind at work. i am pleased to have jeffrey goldberg back at this table. first of all, congratulations. you can see how man has grown as he experienced more of the whole world of foreign-policy. did you find him different russian mark -- different? >> i have been interacting with him from time to time for the last eight to 10 years even in the senate and i would say at the end of his presidency he has a more tragic view of certain issues than he did at the beginning. the arab world most particularly. trolley what the limitations of american power? >> he is always sensitive to the limitations of american power. bu